This is going to be the nail in the coffin. You are demonstrating how much you want to milk out of the game with minimal creative effort. Many of us have been playing since launch and have 15+ max level characters, and have leveled one of every base class to earn those achievements, and you're telling us we need to play through the old content again. It has become abundantly clear that Bioware/EA does not care about the existing customers and instead are catering to either new players, or hope to squeeze even more money out of us. You give us no new ops - an hour or two content a month at best in the chapters, and then you try to feed us this? First, you ruin the cartel packs with the Chance Cubes, making it so we'll hopefully keep putting coins into the machine for the claw to pull out something good, only to end up with things we got originally in the packs they were first released in. Over and over and over. Now, you're trying to regurgitate the old content as something exciting. I'm not drinking the Kool-aid.

And they'd probably still not actually get it.

And that's the thing - I'm not arguing to not make the old items available, but don't make them available to the detriment of also being able to get the new items. I, too, though the old "grand" packs were great for that, as it kept them separate. It's fine to give newer players a chance to have those old items and they absolutely should, but if you're putting out a new pack, make sure people are getting those new items they're buying the packs for.

Some of us don't play the game as a virtual marketplace and instead play it for fun. Some of us, in fact, actually roleplay in this game. We want certain items that look a certain way. If I wanted a game that centers around economics and trade, I'd be in Eve, not SWTOR. When I buy a pack I want the items advertised in THAT pack - not in the previous packs.

No more packs for me. What it boils down to is this: why even bother making a new pack if chances are you're not going to get much of the actual new gear? It almost smacks of false advertising. I remember once they told us that we shouldn't have expected to get certain pieces of armors that were "unfinished" based on the fact the artwork contained the "finished ones" and they changed them on us AFTER we bought them. By that same argument, we should be getting the items in the artwork and not from 2 years ago - especially when it's mostly crap no one wanted then. Make the new packs new packs. If people want a pack of Chance Cubes, make a pack of Chance Cubes, but don't punish players who have been here for years buying packs by giving us old stuff we probably already have. This is the problem with giving in to the vocal minority. First, they made changes to the packs people didn't like. They were going to return them to the way the original packs were. But that vocal minority who didn't like the "Grand Bronze Armor Pack" type setup complained and Bioware ruined it for those of us who WEREN'T unhappy with it. Give both groups something - don't take things away from the people who weren't displeased with the way the packs had been. Give us the NEW items we're buying the packs for, not the same junk we couldn't sell in the first place when the old pack originally came out. The new pack structure is horrible for your long-time players who have been giving you money for years. All you're doing is guaranteeing you won't be getting any more from us by "improving" packs at our detriment.

What it boils down to is this: why even bother making a new pack if chances are you're not going to get much of the actual new gear? It almost smacks of false advertising. I remember once they told us that we shouldn't have expected to get certain pieces of armors that were "unfinished" based on the fact the artwork contained the "finished ones" and they changed them on us AFTER we bought them. By that same argument, we should be getting the items in the artwork and not from 2 years ago - especially when it's mostly crap no one wanted then. Make the new packs new packs. If people want a pack of Chance Cubes, make a pack of Chance Cubes, but don't punish players who have been here for years buying packs by giving us old stuff we probably already have. This is the problem with giving in to the vocal minority. First, they made changes to the packs people didn't like. They were going to return them to the way the original packs were. But that vocal minority who didn't like the "Grand Bronze Armor Pack" type setup complained and Bioware ruined it for those of us who WEREN'T unhappy with it. Give both groups something - don't take things away from the people who weren't displeased with the way the packs had been. Give us the NEW items we're buying the packs for, not the same junk we couldn't sell in the first place when the old pack originally came out.

When I buy a new pack, it's because I want a chance at what's in THAT pack. If I wanted the old packs, I would have bought them - or I'd buy the items off the GTN when they pop up. This chance cube concept is a waste and it's unlikely I'll buy any more packs if it's just going to potentially lead to me getting two items I already got 2 years ago and didn't even want THEN. If you want people to have chances at the old stuff, just put out a Chance Cube pack or add a Chance Cube into the pack in ADDITION to items from that pack. Don't make people who buy NEW packs get old stuff we've had for years. That's unacceptable, guys, and it makes players who have been around for years not want to buy anything.

What people don't understand when they don't work in the MMO industry is that you can do all the testing in the world but until you push something to live, you never know 100% how it is going to go. With SWG, we had network virtualization and applications to test server load and in the end, even with everything we put it through, it broke. It happens. We worked all night trying to resolve it and all we got in return was basically people accusing us of everything short of killing their pet dog. Probably even got accused of that too. I wouldn't know since for years I've refused to even read official forums for most games. And you're very welcome. SWG took up 3 years of my life. Its ending was bittersweet, even if I'd left the company well before it happened.

I worked it. It was painful on both sides - for us and for the players. It's also probably why I'm a wee bit more patient with game devs than so many seem to be: I've been there.

Thank you for the update and all that you are doing to keep us informed. Some of us appreciate that you're striving to push out a complete, clean update with as few bugs as possible.

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I'm going to guess you collect lightsabers, like I do Probably wrong. Unrelated - be glad you aren't working on ye olde Galaxies. I worked that launch and oh the rioting!

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Here's the thing... the same people complaining the servers are still down would be the first ones to throw a fit about how Bioware keeps putting out buggy content if they'd pushed it out anyway. Can't have it both ways. I can wait a bit longer for a stable, fixed update. 'Tis the nature of the MMO

Horrible day to be working from home after all I actually had to WORK! *gasp* The horror!