Yes, this was a very useful quote when applied to all of the PT films.

Turn that frown upside down. It could have been worse: Lucas could have actually made more films.

Well said, as this pretty much summed up what the hell the execs at SOE (and Mr Smedley) were thinking, if you could call it that. They decided that a few hundred thousand subscribers weren't enough and tried to steal market share from Blizzard by remaking their MMO into "WoW in space". If it weren't for their stupidity, SWG would still be around today as a good niche game, much like EVE Online.

Yeah, all 5 of them had a blast playing on near-empty servers. The NGE basically killed SWG, even though it took a few years to finally lie down and die.

No, it's more like a dog with a litter of puppies...

We can also use the Search function to avoid creating a thread about something that's already been discussed. It won't bite you, I promise.

Heh, the Force is strong in those two...

No, I mean it as a general statement. For example, the viewpoint of the average 10-year-old child wouldn't and generally shouldn't be held in the same regard as that of the average 30-year-old.

Some points of view hold more weight than others.

Michael Bay is laughing too, considering how much the Transformers films have been dumped on by critics. That doesn't mean they're good films.

You're honest about your opinion at least. Kudos to you.

"Graphic killings"? Unless your standards for violence are those of a naive 8-year-old pacifist, the deaths in the PT films are about as "graphic" as those in your typical children's cartoon. If you want graphic violence, go watch Saving Private Ryan, Rambo, Collateral, or any one of a ton of action/war flicks. Main characters in many film franchises don't die, so what's your point? The Jawas appeared in less than 5 minutes of screentime in all of the OT films. I agree about the Ewoks, but we all know that Lucas had started to fully take over the creative process by the time RoTJ was made.

Let's look at Anakin and Obi-Wan, arguably the 2 "main" characters of the PT films: Anakin is a little child who grows up to be a whiny teenager who is powerful in the Force. He is also an idiot, because he allows himself to be led around by the nose by the main bad guy over some promises. He likes his master but also hates his master, as this is apparently how "great friendships" work. Obi-Wan is a whiny padawan who becomes a knight after killing the sith guy who killed his master. He trains Anakin only as a promise to his master, which showcases his ability to make a liar out of himself when it comes to what he tells Luke later in ANH. Obi-Wan can't train Anakin well enough because he's so annoyed with him all the time (I think), and then cuts off his arms and legs so that he can become Darth Vader. The end. Now let's look at the villains: Palpatine is an evil old man who likes to make plans that blow up in his face as part of some master plan to take over everything. He is able to take over everything because the Jedi are idiots. The end. Count Dooku is a former Jedi who turned to evil for some reason that we're never told. He leads the Separatists, beats up Obi-Wan/Anakin the first time he runs into them, fights Yoda to a draw before running away, then gets his head cut off by Anakin in their next meeting. General Grievous is a cowardly "Jedi killer" who collects lightsabers. He runs from Obi-Wan twice before getting killed when his inexplicably exposed inner organs are fried by a blaster. Darth Maul is Darth Sidious' apprentice. He likes to stand with his arms crossed looking bad ***. He fights Qui Gonn and Obi-Wan; he kills the former before being inexplicably killed when he stares at Obi-Wan while he cuts him in half. The end. I won't forget to mention that all the villains were made into expensive and cheap toys after their 5 seconds of screen time in the PT films.

Let's see, starting with the main villain in the OT films stayed on throughout all 3 films (Darth Vader). His motivations were explained (the Empire exists to impose order on the galaxy, but he wants to overthrow the Emperor and rule with his son as his apprentice), and he's fleshed out (his inner conflict that eventually leads to his redemption). Let's look at the protagonist of the OT films (Luke Skywalker): we see his beginnings (a farm boy on a boondock planet who dreams of getting away by joining the Academy to be a pilot like his friend Biggs already did). Luke then begins his start as a Jedi through his meeting with Obi-Wan where he also learns about his father. He becomes a hero by blowing up the Death Star and starts off ESB as a ranking officer in the Rebel Alliance. He begins his Jedi training in earnest with Yoda, but rushes to save his friends from Vader and learns the hard way that he is not ready yet. He progresses further in his training by the time of RoTJ but has to face the ultimate trial by facing his father and the Emperor. Luke is able to help his father redeem himself by appealing to the good side of him in the nick of time, while his friends blow up the 2nd Death Star. He is able to see the ghost of his redeemed father, then rejoins his sister and friends as they face the universe following the fall of the Empire. No, the characters in the PT films were nowhere near as complex as those in the OT films.

So you were serious when you said the characters in the prequel were more complex. You're free to have any opinion you like, of course, but it's hard to say that characters in the PT films were more complex when little backstory is shown on any of them. For example, here are some questions about General Grievous relating to his character that the PT films never answer: 1) Where did he come from? 2) Why did he decide to join the Separatist faction? 3) How did he rise to become a general? 4) Why does he hate Jedi so much? 5) How did he become a cyborg? Another example is that aside from Yoda, Obi-Wan, Windu, and Anakin, none of the other Jedi are even referred to by name at any point in the films. Then there is the fact that the relationship between Anakin and Obi-Wan is never built up prior to AoTC. It's the details that make things complex, and the PT films have very little of them.