invinc i see your pointj there and ill give you an uw relic parse in the next couple days . My point is with engi you dont get to do that on the bosses in a proper way even board will admit that and tha is why MM is winning most fights. I just think a spec that is most viable on a dummy is a spec that should be not taken as seriously

I do not see the relics has an exploit though. It is definately not working as intended but i didn't have to dupe or do anything special for it to work i equipped them and then that was it. I agree they should be fixed, but sabo/engi bombs are only fully useable on about 4 bosses atm and that is it that's why you'll see a lot of people switching to MM and all over torparse a MM is dominating most fights

You are completley right id i agree whole heartedly plus i just hate engi . only thing i could think was to monitor engi in a proper way would be to not do Covered Escape on CD because in a raid setting the likelyhood that you get to do it on gcd and have all the bombs hit on exact same target is not going to happen often. So instead of making people not use it at all just dont allow it to be used on cd.

Well I guess i go to go do another engi parse now yay but in all seriousness if were gonna be picky about things like the relics that are not under our control we can be picky about not allowing engi parses at all casue yeah mean sitting in the corner of the ship simulates real bosses well

Victory is mine

http://www.torparse.com/a/225391/time/1368407501/1368407802/0/Damage+Dealt engineering 5/36/5

CD almost every time even with the 15% more damage dart averages more for me can do it on the run costs less energy.

so effectively over that 6 minutes i had about 5% more crits than i should of which is a good parse but by no means out of the ordinary

im at 22% crit atm not 21 but other than that yeah those are correct

using two power procs from pvp with a point in vital regs atm have the underworld SA and a DG clicky one sitll but the two pvp ones are providing about 40-50 more dps cause the healing refresh thing that is happening and yeah my sos crit is high but my orbital and ambush crit sucked bad but with both pvp things proccing off hits and then refreshing/reproccing with vital was by far the best option for last weeks raid for me too as you could see with some of the parses .

actually that was a one and done this morning last night though i tried 5 different times to get one to *********** last and then i raged out and logged.

IM on the Harbinger king of lag server but alays on the ship and idk have a decent comp

http://www.torparse.com/a/218467/1/0/Overview new 2/2 pc parse just thougth id post it cause it was longer for you board

http://www.torparse.com/a/218467/1/0/Overview Took me all damnb mornign to get higher than five minutes happy now ? 36/8/2 Marksman Spec oh didnt realize we were trimming either so here is highest at 5 mins http://www.torparse.com/a/218467/time/1368121464/1368121781/0/Overview gear is 69s/72s with 72 main hand and 2/2 piece for 5 ticks of orbital from old pvp gear and new pvp gear.

http://www.torparse.com/a/216421/5/0/Overview Marksman Sniper yeah its 4 minutes 35 seconds combat breaks alot for MMs very hard to sustain for 5 minutes but hopefully youll be ok with it