Ah I see, I was expecting to actually see some good amount force recovery but I get it now.

I actually prefer your full madness just because I do pvp from time to time. Also, I got Sith Efficacy and I dont feel like I'm getting much force back, and I pretty much spam my Force Lightning. Does it get better at higher lvls? I'm only lvl 28

thx that helped a lot

the hybrid you posted is the one from noxxic and I was going for that but noticed that I barely use Lightning Strike and shock in pve. Whats the full madness build?

I don't care what people say that sorc is the worst dps, I wana play my sorc as dps and thats what I'm gonna do. I just need a little help figure out the build and to go either madness or lightning . I love the DoTs boost from madness and no cooldown on force lightning, but Thundering Blast is great especially if I'm put affliction on my targets. this is the build i was going for http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201hZf0MMZcrbRsrkrc.2

I guess I'll try out gunslinger, maybe all that flash from blasters will keep me awake.

does gunslinger do as much dmg as sniper? I'm looking for a good dps class for pve. Mara/sent is squishy and I got bored on my lvl 26 sniper.

I have lvl 31 dps jugg and I love it. But sometimes I feel like as dps I dont do enough dps. Then I decided I wanted to play a range class, and Vanguard/PT are range and have some close combat skills. How different is dps compared to vanguard/PT to guardian/jugg? For pve dps. I do a little of pvp.