Centuries before she's born? Senya said Valkorion had changed though. He was kind, benevolent, until the kids were born. And turned into a monster. I suppose you can say he abandoned his identity it's just like he is only known as Valkorion now. Like tenebrae doesn't exist. Only Valkorion. And yet he was called Tenebrae by his father.

This is the problem with 'Valkorion being gone' Valkorion WASN'T Vitiate/Tenebrae because he was once Valkorion a "Great Warrior" but became hollowed out by the Emperor. Theory of this was that Valkorion and Vitiate were two aspects of himself like what happened with Revan. But I suppose not. Everyone doesn't recognize him as vititate nor Tenebrae just Valkorion. And intimately. His family despising Valkorion and treating him like a traitor to their family but technically Tenebrea corrupted Valkorion and took him over. If he took over the outlander would he just be the outlander even if he turned evil and we had a new chapter to fight our outlander body taken over by Valkorion? Or would we call him Valkorion knowing it isn't us anymore. It's Valkorion. Or in Valkorion's case, it isn't truly Valkorion but it's Tenebrea. It would have been better to have more clarification in maybe releasing Valkorion's original spirit from Tenebrae for a final moment with his children and wife when struck down or at least make a mention of feeling his presence freed from Tenebrea to join the force. But nah. There's one problem. Vitiate's true original body in Tenebrae was never revealed and now that he's "Dead" it never will be?? What a wasted opportunity and it seems KOTFE just screwed things up so alot doesn't even make sense anymore. I would want to bring him back simply to show his true original form and that OG Vitiate voice eminating outward again. Just so that "Dark Void" part of him will be acknoweldged. Remember in the Revan book when his TERRIFYINGLY COLD MIND was seen by Scourge, and those chilling Black Voids he called eyes? We won't see that now. Do we want that?? Even REVAN was gonna restore vititate to his ORIGNAL BODY if I recall. What happened to all that?? Waste In any case. Most are tired of him and I get that. But it just feels incomplete and a complete mess now with wasted potential. Imagine if he did return we would finally see his more chaotic self instead of him just being your buddy manipulator, and he'd just mind dominate in one last desperate effort where we found his real body and finish him off. But oh well. Then we'd feel "Tenebrae's spirit fade" instead of "Valkorion's" when he TECHNICALLY isn't Valkorion truly. Not anymore. All this Valkorion crap just made him seem split in half, and inconsistent. Like he has a split personality.

And yet in Knight's of the fallen empire he is only understood as Valkorion by everyone no matter what. And they all know it's the Emperor yet just call him Valkorion. But it is later revealed Valkorion was a "Great warrior" he hollowed out and took as his new vessel. And yet still everyone only considers him Valkorion, aside from his sith father who doesn't even call him viitate but tenebrae. We never even got the see his original sith pureblood vessel basically meaning Valkorion was all he was anymore. As if they're the same. Which is rather disappointing. I kind of would have prefered a realization Senya would have that Valkorion is no longer Valkorion and to "kill the imposter" or something, or what corrupted him and destroyed the man she knew since he wasn't always Tenebrae. But nope. The Sith Emperor is Vititate. He changed his mind and becomes Valkorion. And his original persona is practically forgotten.

We graduated our story the top of our chain. Everyone bowing to us. In KOTFE and KOTET we were made to be shown as 'weak' compared to the Emperor's children and only defeated them because of help and getting force power from Satele/Marr to amp us up. So back in the start of KOTFE we were already weak seeming....... ever since after the original story we've kinda felt.... lame as a main character, TBH. Sure, we killed the Emperor, but that's largely because of that "kneel before the dragon of zakuul" trick, and we had help against Vaylin. Even Senya tossed us aside when we were about to fight Vaylin in KOTFE, tossed us like a weak rag doll and fought evenly when Vaylin..... WE were ragdolled by both children. On and on and on. Senya seems stronger at first. Also I know they are the emperor's children so of course they'd be strong as heck. But here's something also. The Sith Warrior defeated Darth Baras who was sucking power from a dark side entity to amp himself, and intimidated the dark council (aside from Marr I'm sure, but he didn't intervene) and Ravage refusing to stand in his path. Bowing to them, if they knew he was the "emperor's wrath" then technically the Warrior should be at least around equal to them. I don't think the Sith Warrior is SUPER strong or anything like some have, but it doesn't make sense if he was still way weaker than the dark council. Also fought the VOICE of the emperor with Sel freaking Makor who took over and was supposedly of similar power to the Emperor's voice. Or at least I thought so. I can't recall for SURE and I don't have the time to look it up as of right now. The Sith Inqusitor as an apprentice took out a champion Jedi Master back when he was an apprentice, darth skotia despite being damaged was still crazy since he was FRESHLY an apprentice then killing a Darth, later he also overpowered Darth Zash as an apprentice FRESHLY turned LORD. Blew up and took out Thanaton a bit later with ghosts amping him, and then later *****slapped Thanaton's lightning away casually in their final battle when he was raging, and wasn't even using his full ghost powers. Maybe not using them at all yet(No glowing eyes when he uses them) as I believe his normal power was used that power because of the Mother Machine fixing his body so his body could handle more power more easily. And then ONCE his eyes glowed he was using the stacked up Power to totally embarrass Thanaton. But even before the ghosts power he was already stronger than a Jedi master that many sith couldn't defeat let alone his master probably at the same time. Sorry I keep saying he, mine is male. Consolar and Knight are less of a focus but the Consular took out the Emperor's main child, and the Knight took out the "TRUE voice" of the Emperor. Meaning also super strong..... Meaning the Knight, Consular, Inqusiitor, Warrior have all dealt with Emperor related powers and even the Emperor himself in some way. In some cases his legit voice that the council members likely were afraid of.... So while I get that the Emperor's children are freaks of nature, so are the Player characters and it's sad to see them more and more get weaker and weaker seeming while supposedly being stronger. I will say with the inquisitor though since his ghosts aren't mentioned then canonically the only way is that they are gone and thus are not a factor anymore. Because he'd be too OP and not seem weak anymore. Maybe actually on Par... an actual threat. I mean the whole KOTFE AND KOTET they only call you "Father!" reffering to the ONLY threat in you which is not you at all, but the OP being in you because you are considered no concern to them. It's rediculous and funny how the whole time you're attacking them and they're attacking you, and you are calling them Arcann and Vaylin while they ignore you and focus on their Father only , brushing you under the rug like a mild inconvenience. Then you magically take them out later on. Like "See?? Stop saying your Father! I'm a threat too!" NOW we are back in the Empire..... and Republic. Which is cool. But.... Malgus has returned and his model is bigger than it use to be. Taller. Same with this other new Jedi being super tall on Ossus. And I imagine, as usual, they're super strong, maybe on par with us? We just killed the Emperor, even failing that, we "fought" the emperor, "fought" his children inside our mind. And now Darth Malgus as much as a 7 foot dinosaur of a sith as he is, is uh..... A serious threat to us? Are we not compatible to the emperor now? Or failing them, the Emperor's children let's just say.... More realistically. Since the Emperor in your head was also weakened. But we beat Vaylin and Arcann, potentially even both at the same time, in that mind zone, but Malgus seems to be in their league if not a bit stronger now. Hm?? Now I'm not so sure that makes any sense, see?? The power scaling and everything is just confusing and it's largely, i feel, to make us still not feel so strong. I mean even as a "Leader" in KOTFE and KOTET you don't make any Major decisions really xD Alot of times you're just a frontline fighter and that's it, and you listen to people, and rarely come up with ideas and when you DO they're all "WOAH this is why you're our leader" :rolleyes:but really you're just a figurehead not really a leader. You inspire people, but you don't technically give orders much.

Although I highly doubt Bioware cares ... plus people always mentions the issues of making player characters smaller and dealing with their animations. Maybe having to make new ones. With NPC's still being so big for no reason? Uh Yeah, I definitely agree and see zero reason why we're .... made to feel small essentially. We defeated the freaking emperor for crying out loud. Lol Also. Malgus was male size 3 before, the bulkier tall size. His model is now towering that, way beyond player models. So .... They actually changed that I noticed. Made him the same size as when he was fighting you enhanced sized in the throne room. Kinda like with Revan being medium height normally, but then later on as a boss he is Malgus size. (NOT size 3, people keep thinking he's like 6'7 or something like darth malak but that was just game mechanics in his case, obviously) But yeah, I've found a female on KOTET Dromund Kaas who was about the same height as a male, and the male was even taller, like a size 3 male NPC and normal not muscular at all. I was like *** I have not found NPC's bigger than size 3 Male yet though, unless they're enemies sometimes yes. But that's nuts. Basically to think some NPC's are the same size as Wookies and Khem Val?? I admit that ruins immersion for me too. I just figure stuff like this will never be addressed because they just .... make the sizes all over the place and don't really care. :/

BUMP THIS. I. MUST. AGREE. Verily so. MAKE IT HAPPEN Ordinary sith corruption is the only shadows on the face I can get that look halfway decent for males, and sith corruption is too much when I would rather it just more shadowy like that. WHY in the galaxy would they remove it??

Some of us like playing Swtor but HATE grinding.. Not because we want it all now but because we don't have ages to spend on grinding forever. And some of us even get bored. Or might not even have all the time in the world. IN any case, it's why I don't do MMO's hardly ever. Grinding, grinding,. and more grinding. At least this game has Awesome Cut-scenes and such which makes great replay-ability.

Wouldn't flagging and killing the infected Player just cause them to blow up and spread it to the attackers, though? Like the Boomer in Left4Dead2

Or something a little more likely and that would take FAR less work could also be not a Voice Canger but a PITCH changer. So it's the same voices already recorded (because that'd be a huge amount of work to include more) but the pitch is changed higher to lower just like in Soul Caliber 4-6 Idk why they haven't already done that, honestly.

Just saying. It's a VERY simple request. So I can match my Cathar's face. It always feels off that the hair can't match the color of the skin/fur when it's white. Nitpick perhaps but a pretty simple one for an OCD fix as well as character accuracy rather than just say he dyed his hair black for whatever reason. Or other colors. The very few options there are.

The point is it's a twist. Also. We NEEDN'T mention that the Traitor was a female. As I said before it might NOT be the traitor since when she planted the device we were about to be sacrificed and when the device went OFF we suddenly woke up. This indicates that may not be the traitor. Still. Maybe it is ... what said person did helped us though so it makes no sense. We didn't do **** to free ourselves after all. Only the mysterious figure did something and we just 'coincidentally' woke up. Also. If it's close to us. It's a TWIST. That's the point. A twist. It would effect us. Impact. Twists are not really twists if it means nothing to us. Because no one cares. That's the point of Lana or Theron as the traitors. While it may not be true. From a writer perspective it's PERFECTLY reasonable. Were I in control, I WOULD do that because of the impact. It would cause so much talk and there's a variety of fun ways it would be handled. Something so unpredictable hasn't ever happened in Swtor in a long time. But unpredictable works! Predictability, at least at a certain point, kills the story gradually.

Nope. They must be alive because Bioware needs them to betray you! Gotta dumb your character down so the plot can unfold and shock your character meanwhile facepalming the players with the obviousness! Like Scorpio all over again!

Angry romantic torch wielding people might be the only issue. In which case, it's just cold feet... It's realistic that either Lana or Theron not support you if you're against and possibly going to finish off obliterating the remains of their respective factions. Whether they're a part of it or not, they still have some tug to it. With the respect they've shown to their own specific factions and wishing to support them as allies still. It's realistic but yes, anything that emotionally effects fans shouldn't be allowed. So basically it's the safe route. Likely scion related. No shock value.

Not only does he have a gaping whole in him but you get the option to break his neck to quicken his death so if that's the case... That's one hell of a comeback.

Sith Purebloods, Cathar, Echani