A lot of well argued points have came about in this thread but also a load of fanboys and a load of game haters have trolled this thread with arguaments that don't contribute to this thread and also to the game. I don't post on the forums much as I would prefer to play the game rather than argue about it but on the fourms I often see threads like this bashing the game, in my opinion the game is fine, it could do with some updates and fixes here and there but a 7 month MMO will have its problems whether it is bugs or subscriptions. I followed this game from day 1 and I don't blame EA or Bioware for the hype it received I blamed the community. The community was calling it the WoW killer and the community was watching videos and developing their own featyres of the game which they would say are in the game and I believe that Bioware has done what they said they would do. Forbes CAN BE a good source of financial information but you have to remember that may be one or two persons opinion of this game. I don't think it is right in saying that just because Forbes says that SWTOR is a financial disaster that it is. Only EA and investors will truly know if that is the case or not. I read a post recently saying that maybe the devs have been quiet is because they are planning a head (like some want) and they would prefer to get everything planned before they consult the community. This could be an idea or maybe they are developing the game like they are paid to do. Who knows but I am sure that the doors of the chocolate factory will open soon (reference to Charlie and the Chocolate factory as amazing things happend when the factory was reopened and silence was broken) Finally I want to talk about the recent layoff (or contract endings). Any freelance contractor will know that one day they won't be needed and sadly that day came for the contractors working in the Bioware studios. I don't believe that the recent "layoffs" will affect the game in anyway as there is still probably hundreds of developers working on this game. Too conclude this I want to publicise the point that this game isn't goin to grow if people keep knocking the game when it is already at a low point. Some times critisicing the game will be good and sometimes it isn't needed. Creating threads that you feel would cause arguaments between fanboys and game haters should really tell you that the thread won't be helpful in any way.