Lol, that's pretty entertaining.

Meh, I dunno about anyone else, but I'm chilling at home while tabbing back and forth. Responding to people on forums doesn't take much effort. And I personally find it interesting debating gameplay issues.

I see the same few people reiterating over and over that they don't like it. Like someone earlier said, when WoW did something like this, there were so many angry threads. But right now, we have a handful of people repeating themselves, while contained in one thread.

I think they missed two things. The vaccine could persist in death, which would solve most of the things on your list. And those cleanse droids should be in the start zone hangers. So you can't get onto the planet with the plague for the newbie zones.

No, you're changing the meaning of griefing at the point. Griefing is 100% about the mentality of the player doing the action.

This I think is the big mistake. It should persist through death.

It's not cut and dry. You're being pretty arrogant about this though, thinking your opinion is fact. And I haven't blown up anyone that didn't want the debuff, so I'm not even a griefer by your terms. If it's not the act of me trying to deliberatly ruin your gameplay it's not griefing. That is the whole point of my argument. The term griefing rose from gaming culture to describe the act of deliberately trying to ruin another persons gameplay. If I'm griefing you, I'm intentionally trying to ruin your fun in the game for my enjoyment. Look up griefing on google. Every definition that comes up is about intentionally trying to ruin another persons gameplay.

This kind of complaining happened in WoW during the Zombie Event. So for the next expansion event, we got a lame Elemental Event that few people liked because it wasn't interesting at all.

Sorry, but you missed what was going on. I was pointing out that a game mechanic that allows somone to be an inconvenience to you doesn't make it griefing. I don't actually think it is griefing to take my node. I just used it as an example of another time I saw this kind of argument. And I find it silly that anytime someone is inconvenienced by someone else/a game mechanic you get players complaining about being 'griefed'.

You consider it griefing, a lot of people don't. It's not cut and dry, and your opinion isn't law, Especially when considering that it's an in-game quest to infect people. Are there people that are taking it too far and finding ways to grief, sure? (People find ways to grief/explot most game mechanics) Does it make the act of infecting someone griefing? We'll have to agree to disagree on that. And with your second list, you got it backwards. Your first statement is true, while the second statement is false. Griefing will always mean deliberately harassing someone, while there are cases where deliberately harassing someone will called something different than griefing.

I find someone taking my nodes way more annoying than this plague personally. So no I don't understand. I want the plague so I can get more things to sell to people. I make money with this debuff. I lose money when people beat me to a node. And what are you talking about? How is 'Griefing is deliberately harassing someone" different from saying 'deliberately harassing someone is griefing' ?

I know they are different situations. My point is just because you are inconvienced with this, doesn't make it greifing. Just like how the inconveince in my scenario isn't griefing, even though I've seen people argue it is. My overall point is the word griefing is used every time someone is mad at what someone else did to them. It dilutes the word. Griefing is deliberately harassing someone. And I find issue with you considering us griefers because we're trying to complete a quest that was given. I have no ill-intent and I'm not doing to get pleasure out of costing you the time it takes to revive after death. I'm doing it because it's part of the game.

Don't make the mistake of thinking its the same people. I see this a lot on forums. The people complaining now are probably not the same people that were complaining then. The reasons forums are always full of complaints is because Group A and Group B always want something that is at odds with each other. Whenever one group is happy, the other is going to be complaining. The playerbase may seem like they are never happy, but it makes sense when you think about it.

Your costing me time by forcing me to find another node, and your costing me money cause now that's one less node for me to sell on the GTN. It's very inconvenient for me. I've heard people argue that beating someone to a node is griefing, and that if someone is closer to a node than you, you have to wait and see if they use it before you can go get it. You remind me of those people.

Nope, I don't care if you needed those resources for yourself. You just cost me time and money by beating me to them. Griefer. I am no forced to find them somewhere else, but I don't want to. If I'm infecting you, I'm doing what the quest tells me to do. That is not griefing. You don't get to call game mechanics you don't like griefing if it's intended by the devs. If you can, then I can.