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  1. I use mouseover especially for interrupts in WoW, but also for CC as well. So, yes, mouseover for tanks and DD would be great.
  2. Thank you! Someone else gets it. Yes, people can heal in operations - guess what, if they couldn't, then the developers would have to nerf the operations to make them easier. In fact, I suspect that's what they've done. People can enjoy this game, and can say I need to learn to play all they want (and if I continue playing, I'd have to). However, the UI is incredibly sub-par when it comes to healing. You guys can grit and bear it if you want to, but I don't see why I should have to.
  3. Yes, because these classes don't have HoTs, and this completely addresses the issue with controls.
  4. As has been said in the thread numerous times: it's not about addons. It's about a non-terrible healing UI.
  5. How can I make it more expedient? There were a couple suggestions, but as I mentioned in my replies, those suggestions are not quality suggestions, as 1) they require way too many keybinds and would make other abilities less expedient, and 2) there is no way to heal without changing target. As to my request to mod the game: My request is that there is a healing UI that isn't terrible. Whether that comes from improvements to the existing UI is irrelevant. I'm not asking for them to allow free-for-all on game-breaking mods. I'm asking for them to make a healing UI that someone who only plays on private servers for MMOs that existed in 2005 wouldn't come in and call outdated
  6. And if you'd read my post, you'll notice that: 1) I am NOT in any way asking for this 2) Those addons stopped working either late in Vanilla or early in TBC, and you couldn't have the addon make your decisions for you anymore 3) I am asking for more efficient controls and better information presentation, not for the game to choose my heals or targets for me So why do you assume that just because I want to present the information better and to take each action from 4 motions down to 2 or 3, that I want the Vanilla WoW Healbot that ran everything for you?
  7. People complimented me on my healing all the time in the early expansions in WoW, and I was able to use mouseover and/or clique then. Addons that improve efficiency or improve information presentation don't play the game for you.
  8. The Naga replaces buttons on your keyboard. How is it that back in the old days of DOS gaming you could program every joystick button individually, but on games today you're limited to 5 mouse buttons and then rely on macros? This is an incredibly disappointing discovery I have made. I will almost definitely NOT stick with SWTOR over other MMOs if their healing UI can't even compare to the healing UI that other MMOs had over 10 years ago.
  9. WoW does a pretty good job of controlling addons so they don't get too game-breaking (the problem they have is they've made the majority of the game so easy it doesn't really matter). In the early days it was pretty but, but they've reigned addons in since then. Even then, the only reason I want an addon is to do what the default UI is not doing, and if the default UI was capable of doing so I wouldn't need an addon. Targeting each individual player just to check HoTs is a significant inefficiency. It would be okay in a game like KOTOR, which is technically turn-based and you can pause, but is not good design for an MMO. I'm not going to have much sympathy for the developers of the game, considering people have been programming quality HoT displays for addons in WoW since the mid-2000s. A "your hots up front" and the ability for your HoTs to be highlighted would fix the issue. I do not like the Razer Naga, as the buttons replace the numpad, which I use. It actually has less buttons available than a normal mouse, in that it takes away from your keyboard buttons to make use of the mouse buttons. I also have trouble hitting the right button on it (although I do like the look of the new MOBA-style Naga they have). What is Star Parse?
  10. If you're only factoring in motions, yes. If you're ignoring my other suggestion, also yes. However, now I need 16 keys to handle targeting and heals, which means I have to find 16 more key combinations to have for my other actions, such as damage and utility. With Clique or Mouseover macros, I can keep the enemy targeted to more efficiently use those abilities as well. It's also easier on the brain to use the mouse with a UI than it is to use solely the keyboard, which is why Windows replaced command-line operating systems. So, in a vacuum, it might be better, but when you factor in that I can't keep enemies targeted and heal, I can't make use of the mouse, and I need to use a lot more key bindings, I don't find it as efficient.
  11. To make it clear what I'm talking about: Clique is an addon for WoW that makes it so you can bind an ability to the mouse, and when you click on a player's unit frame, it will use that ability. For example, I might bind Mouse1 to a big heal, Mouse2 to an efficient heal, Mouse4 to a HoT, and Mouse5 to an AoE. So I would put my cursor over the tank and click Mouse4, then click Mouse2 on the tank or anyone who needed to be topped off, and then when bigger hits came in I'd click Mouse5 or Mouse1 on the appropriate targets to do big amounts of heals. With Clique, I am not letting the addon play for me. I'm still in complete control. I can just do my healing without relying on keyboard dexterity. Similarly, Mouseover Macros would be a macro in WoW which would like: "/cast [target=mouseover] Deliverance" or "/cast [target=mouseover] Rejuvenate". This way I don't need to actually click on anyone to use the heal. I would simply put that macro on my action bar to replace the ability, and then I would put my mouse over who I wanted to heal and press the button. (You can get more complex in WoW and throw in modifiers like if I hit Shift it will heal my target and if I hit control it will heal myself). In both of these cases, I am still in 100% control over the healing that is being done and the decisions made. I can just reduce the amount of motions my fingers make in order to do so. ------ This is to contrast with something like Healbot from the earliest days of WoW, which would automatically sort players based on health deficit and then would smart-select a heal based on the total health deficit of the player and how many players were injured. (This was nerfed very early in WoW's development and doesn't work anymore). In this case you would just have a button on-screen that you would repeatedly click and it would do all of the healing for you. This is an example of a bad way to do healing, in that it completely replaces any decisions you as a player would make. It is not what I am requesting.
  12. Where is anything automated? I'm still making the same amount of decisions, but I'm pushing less buttons to do so. It's like how in Microsoft Word, I can hit Ctrl+C to copy, I can right-click and then select Copy to copy, or I can go up to Edit and then click on Copy. Then after going to where I want to paste, I can hit Ctrl+V to paste, I can right-click and select Paste to paste, or I can go up to Edit and then click on Paste. All three involve the same decision - what am I copying and where is it going? The same is true of mouse-over macros or clique style healing. I still pick who to heal, and I still pick what heal to use. I just use my hands more efficiently to accomplish the same task. Neither mouseover macros nor clique will decide for you who to heal or what ability to use. It's not an artificial intelligence that is helping me. It's merely a tool to make my hands more efficient.
  13. I'm not going to argue that other healers CAN do the content. However, I am going to say that 4 movements (move mouse to target, click on target, move finger to keyboard button, click key) are less efficient than 3 movements (move mouse over target, move finger to keyboard button, click key) or two movements (move mouse over target, click appropriate mouse button). This also helps you react quicker than queuing abilities. The biggest reason I prefer the clique style is it saves space on my action bars. If I can use my mouse for healing, I can use my normal buttons for damage or utility. As you said, there's a GCD system, so it's not like easier controls will make someone broken powerful. It's just more user-friendly.
  14. I played this game for several months after launch, but gave up because I was unhappy with the healing UI. Specifically, my issues as an operative were: 1. I could not differentiate my HoTs from the other operatives, which made it a nightmare trying to maintain them 2. There was no mouseover or clique style of healing, which makes it simply more efficient to heal. 3. There exists no API system in the game to allow users to create custom addons which would alleviate these issues. I have just picked up the game again, and it appears that neither of these issues have been fixed. Is there a way around this?
  15. The fact that nobody has replied suggests this information is as hard to find as I feared.
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