Yay you didn't all implode. Congrats on the progress thus far!

Where my Reps at? Did everyone implode on themselves after we left?

Is their job answering your questions or making a game for you?

Been like 11 days chillax.

Pretty simple. Point 1: Damage reduction to Guards vs Sents. Sents have inspiration/zen/etc, offhands and other tools within their trees to do more damage without the need for a rend. Guardians do not possess those offensive cooldowns, raid utilities, offhands and fun talents. To make up for this we have armor reduction which we share with a few other classes. Point 2: You're ignoring the fundamental bit of classes in SWTOR. These are advanced classes. We are Jedi Knights first, Guardians or Sentinels second. We will share basic abilities and Dispatch happens to be one of them. Point 3: I do agree that I wish we were different in this regard but I wouldn't say that sharing this mechanic is wrong or makes Guards carbon copies. This ability is flavor for us, a little sweetener to our DPS. Point 4: Look at the tools provided to both. When a Combat sent is in full swing their mitigation is on par with Guards. Watchmen has self healing to offset their lack of armor. Sents have the best (even with the recent guard changes) suite of defensive cooldowns. The armor point is pretty much a wash. If you're having issues taking down a Guardian I recommend rolling one and learning its weaknesses. Also check out any of the guides on the Sent forums, the few that I read where mostly correct.

Great heals. The heavy armor makes her way better than Doc. She doesn't do as much DPS as Kira in tank or heal spec. I use her (Treek) for most content so I don't have to stop and rest. Makes heroics a joke.

Look at the other questions. At most a couple paragraphs and their answers were quite sufficient. And I've worked for years as a developer, I can assure you we don't want the wordiness. I think the way it was reduced by Mr. Fuzzle is perfect. It covers just our comments and concerns without the fluff.

Heh nice to see we didn't even try to fix the wordiness. Too much text.

:D This is why I urged us to make sure that the new changes didn't have a substantial impact on this point. I'd cut it in favor of something else. And strongly urge you to put at most a paragraph before the question as other top 3 questions have been formatted.

Is all the text before the questions going to be included or just the question? If it is going to be included we really need to reduce the wall of text. I understand we want to be thorough, but this is way way too much. Gotta be succinct. No one wants to read 4 or 5 paragraphs before each question. Just imagine someone coming to ask you a question and giving you a soliloquy first. You'd walk out of the room. Ideally I wouldn't put more than a paragraph before the question.

You do realise they will have to overhaul the other two trees to do that. It's not as simple as merging talents together in one tree. As it stands we need to lose 2 points somewhere to bring us in line with the other classes. We're not that far off. I think it's a gross exaggeration to say we have severe talent bloat. 1 of those points was recently added in, so really we were on 1 point away. Lose 2 at most 3 points. losing 6 is just ridiculous.

Is this tested with the new changes? I just wouldn't want to waste a question on a nice to have when there are other needs out there. I wasn't on the PTS so I didn't see if the changes to Enure and all that jazz had a meaningful impact on what you are saying. If it didn't then ask away, but if it made a considerable impact it might be best to ask a different more pressing question.

Exactly. It should also be noted that Sages are one of the classes that still needs a bit of a top up. Once they get it all will be right with the world.

Ignoring your flawed logic..... A boost like what I proposed has far less impact on our overall DPS than the offensive guard. We're talking a situational 2 minute+ cooldown akin to what every other class gets. This isn't a one or two classes kind of thing, but all of them. Do I think we really need it to be effective right now? No. Do I think it is useful to have a cooldown like this in our arsenal for when they balance out the rest of the classes? Yes. They can add it in whenever they finish this latest round of class balancing changes. I don't care what the other classes are saying about wanting to nerf us, they're going through every single class and spec adjusting them all. They're doing it one or two at a time so someone may be **** of the walk right now, but eventually it'll all be balanced out. And Sents have far better CDs than any other class in the game so they can cry all they want but it won't go far unless they want to be cut down themselves. And don't L2P me if I have shown anything on these discussions it's that I'm far from a noob when it comes to guard. I can't say the same of you.

Name some. It is a known design idea yes that doesn't mean that it will apply to our system here. You can't toss in a LotRO mechanic just because you like it and it's in the "mmo scene." It has to work with what we have going. Aside, why is it that anyone's suggestions for a new cooldown will "ENSURE us getting nerfed back into the ground" but yours is quite alright? Just very interesting. Now to be fair I am fine with our current suite of CDs both offensively and defensively. Would I be happy to see some sort of oh **** button to pop when you can't get uptime on a boss for some reason (add duty, stuck fighting your companion, stuck in prison, etc)? You bet. And I don't see a 2 minute cooldown akin to the ones the other classes have breaking the game. Again, the only thing that should ever ensure a player's spot is how well they play, not a mechanic that makes their class a requirement for a group. You should leave the discussions to the rest of us rather than constantly derail them with your negativity and doomcalling.