Kinda like your signature then, yo? And fyi there was a hint of constructive advice in my 'memebaby' i.e. i'd like to see a healer heal through a couple of tracer missiles... to the knee's. (see what i did there?!?! mwhaha). trollybaby.

I used to be a healer, then i took a tracer missile to the knee. But seriously, I can kill healers 1 on 1... except certain BH healers, but even then... they usually end up running away whilst i still have 99% of my HP left. So if 3-4 people are needed to kill a healer, well, your dps is terrible (you aren't dps'ing with healers are you?), or you aren't telling the full story (he's been guarded, healed by another healer etc).

So do I, his name is usually Fidopro, Jimra or ZDProletariat. OP - looking good bro. Mind if I ask where you got your tat, and pimp stick?

Been there, done that... corpse camping was the least of the problems with that game (if it was one at all). Try again.

By challenge you mean grind, right? The only challenge being finding time to sit behind your PC and invest 'time'. Hardcore PVP... in TOR? lol GW2 will be the MMO for PVP'ers (wvwvw, esports, tournaments, ladders etc)... and guess what, it doesn't have gear discrepancies or gear grinds in it's competitive pvp area's *shock*. Or is that game too carebear and casual for you?

sorcs are actually weak QFT.

Gear grinds never used to be part of PVP. Gear grinds were always part of PVE. Thus, if you want gear grinds with your PVP - then it's YOU who is the PVE'er in disguise. Logic bro. But keep relying on your gear advantage to carry you in PVP, whilst pretending that you are 'hardcore'? lol

Not all MMO's are like that, hell, AC1 way back in 99 had dodgable projectiles (arrows, spells) and the like. And there's plenty of other examples. GW2 will have this on a smaller scale, and TERA is taking it to another level. There's also a lot more to well designed MMO PVP than that. Different skills, abilities, classes... all which you can learn to counter. Different tactics, environmental advantages etc... I'd say that being good at AC1 took a lot more skill than being good at quake (which was 99% reflexes). And yeah, I won plenty of Quake tournies.

By back in the day, you mean WOW right? Because... back in the day (well before WOW, kiddo) gear had little to do with the outcome of PVP fights. There was no PVP gear, no minigame grinds, just meaningful world PVP where player skill decided the outcome of fights.... and where dying actually had consequences (something you carebear generation wouldn't understand). TLDR: Meaningful world PVP with consequences and skill based PVP >>>>>>>> your little instanced minigame grinds for gear advantages.

Wake up bro, you're dreaming! Hang in there though, it's coming... WvWvW, skill based pvp, tournaments, competitive pvp etc etc etc...

They can't even make world PVP, or competitive PVP, what makes you think they can handle full loot? One step at a time. Oh no, epikwang is mad!

OP is afraid that without his gear crux he will get pillaged... frequently. So he has busted out some fail logic. "Classes aren't created 100% equal (and people don't want to learn how to counter classes anyway lolol), so it's ok to put in large gear discrepancies... cause you know, if it's going to be even slightly unbalanced, let's just go all the way and make it hugely unbalanced...." RIGHT? Oh yeah. PS If you were a real PVP'er, you would be all for changes that made PVP more about player skill. Y U SCARED BRO? Crate clicking, kill trading, minigame grinds.... Yeah, you earned that gear advantage because clearly you've got 'dem mad skillz?

Unfortunately you need rewards/incentives when your PVP consists of nothing more than 3 minigames. How else would you get people to stick around? Obviously meaningful world PVP is too much to ask....

The best shooters out there still don't have gear discrepancies. The best RTS games out there still don't have gear discrepancies. The best PVP MMO's out there have very limited, or no gear discrepancies. The MMO every real PVP'er is waiting for, doesn't have gear discrepancies in it's competitive PVP area's. Who's out of luck again? But you're welcome to keep chasing that carrot, the carrot that you 'earned' simply by spending time grinding, the carrot that you need to get - because it makes up for your lack of skill. The carrot that changes every patch, and that is used to cover up lack of actual PVP content. The carrot that is present in every PVE-lite MMO, such as in TOR.

This ^. I had no problems being competitive in WZ's as a level 15. Hell, at 15 I was able to take down a level 43 player of my own class solo... twice. In the early 20's i was topping damage, and getting the most objective points... and had zero problems against level 30's or 40's. But maybe I'm doing it wrong... Hint: Bolster OVER buffs your skills when you are really low. These days, when I want to stomp pugs and undergeared players I go and play my 50 with our guild pre-made and pretend that winning takes skill. When I want to have fun, I play with one of my re-rolls in 10-49 pugs. Pro-tip: there is no competitive PVP in this PVE orientated MMO, regardless of your level. So quit pretending.