Daelia or Kor or w/e has been the most helpful and informative person on the Sorc forum. He has however recently taken on the persona of an elitest. Very sad because his message is always accurate. The unfortunate thing is his delivery of said message (recently). Give the guy a break, he comments on idiocy every day.

Bro, I have raided with mage class types for past 10yrs dating back to EQ and I promise you : as of right now in this build madness is the way to go for Ops. Lightning will have you standing in fire and branded forever as a baddie. Even if Lightning parsed or simmed or w/e 1/3 higher than Madness you should still go with madness. A dead dps doesnt top charts no matter how op his build is on a target dummy. A dead dps will however be blackballed forever by top PVE guilds. Don't get blackballed by top PVE guilds. (that last bit was made to mimmick the cox cable commercial).

Daellia does your sim take into acct the defences (and lack of) ratings to various forms of damage. Wondering because my parse of hybrid is consistantly lower than madness on champ dummy. Thinking this may be due to internal damage vs. w/e FL damage is ?

I agree very much so with this person. I was black/red mage in FFXI, Mage in WoW, Bright Wiz in WAR, Demo in AoC, Ele in GW, winged caster thing in Aeon etc.. I love ranged magic ONRY. C A S T E R P R I D E !

All good Pure, was not referring to this post or you brother. Thank you Daellia. I'll just stick with 1/12/28 ><. I am guessing that instant TB is indeed not happening? SAD FACE.

The theory is based around my dislike of TB.. the cast time the damage and crit mechanic. 11 in madness to get DF. My thinking is aff cast, instant cast DF, LS spam till CL rinse repeat. TB basically wastes any crit capping and consumes a reckless charge if I am not carefull. It works in my mind but I am away from my comp ><

Finally Daellia responds... My intent in the first place but got flamed last time I requested you in forum. How about DF instead then? 2 sec TB for instant DF with similar CD's ? I just really really really hate TB's mechanic.. negates your crit stack and wastes reckless proc if is on.

Had nothing to do with FL spam. Was thinking FL only when barrage procs ? Trading a hasted dd FL for a weak TB? Has absolutely no similarities to 25/16. Your only filler is LB. guess I should have been more descriptive with gameplay but I figured it was obvious. Just trying to get around a terrible 31pt skill. This build works in theory if the damage from dd FL or DF trumps TB : that is the only trade-off... Also I was not aware FE proc'd instant TB : if that is the case post 1.2 then it would seem BW fixed the light tree and this point is moot. Has this change been confirmed(very exciting if true).

I have been on vacation for few days and will not be home for another few days(1yr anni apparently means I don't get to play meh games !!). Anyway 30pt light/11pt mad. Skill dist pretty obvious in light, the 11th point in madness tree going to DF or double dip madness. If someone can please test these out and maybe even sim I would love you long time. Would think pwr/ala mods would trump pwr/srg or crt/srg mods (atm can't rem if pwr/ala mods actually exist) for this build.

I have been on vacation for few days and will not be home for another few days(1yr anni apparently means I don't get to play meh games !!). Anyway 30pt light/11pt mad. Skill dist pretty obvious in light, the 11th point in madness tree going to DF or double dip madness. If someone can please test these out and maybe even sim I would love you long time. Would think pwr/ala mods would trump pwr/srg or crt/srg mods (atm can't rem if pwr/ala mods actually exist) for this build.

I have experience with all these classes as well. I honestly do not believe the reason for the population explosion is due to ease of use but rather how cool a sorc is... Think from the perspective of a sw fanboy and not an mmo vet. Afterall the emperor was a sorc. I do apologize for the shut down comment, that was truly unnecessary. But I feel inclined in RL and in-game to stick up for those being harassed. Unfortunately in doing so I harassed you. But you have to realize by now that you are trolling and the only thing you are accomplishing is alienating(prob misspelled w/e) yourself. I think it would be best if you just left it alone and let those that care about sorc discuss sorc. Wouldn't you agree that is fair sir?

Everyone please take note and remember: is ok to foster your own opinions. What is not ok is to try and force these opinions on others w/o actual data or if u have an ulterior motive. The latter seems to be the case here unfortunately. Do not impose on the time of others if your only agenda is to disrupt or complicate an already complicated issue. I am sad(really not too sad) to say that if you do you will be unmasked and embarrassed publicly like Russlem.

Russlem, buddy, what is being said in regards to sorc CL nerf (DPS) is indeed a little muddled. Yes, 2% decrease in sustained STDPS but the loss of burst & splash damage is considerable. Some of the posters here are having what seems to be an issue with communicating their thoughts. Honestly the only one that should be posting about 1.2 sky falling QQ sorc nerf is Daellia. The unfortunate thing is it seems Daellia is uninterested in going tat for tat or w/e w/you because you seem a little hostile. If your point was to troll and get people riled up then congratulations, you have succeeded. If your intentions are to open a thoughtful text string to bring to light the fact that everyone feels screwed then YOUR communication skills leave much to be desired. Odd considering you are a professional blogger. As I digress, please lose your "everyone but Russlem is an idiot" tone or come to grips with the fact that you are a troll. Happy hunting to all classes and all manner of players. Anything that indeed proves to be terribly wrong will be corrected in due time. Hopefully, for BW at least, the time is before May 15th(D3). Thank you for your time.

Durability?

CL is no longer a wrath'd procc'd skill. That build(25/16), even pre-1.2, is meh. Post-1.2 it will still probably be the worst DPS build out there due to being dependent on 2 filler skills (LS&FL). 3/7/31 or 1/12/28 is going to be your top DPS builds for both PvE & PvP post-1.2. Happy hunting !