Hell yeah, I was expecting to play a MMO, thats why I used to pay a monthly fee, on the contrary I'm stuck on a server with 20 player at max. Clearly my expections were 'far beyond the actual reality'.

Whatever, I tried to put in some figures but its like bouncing against a rubber wall with you guys. Just believe what you like. EA said that? Good, unfortunately the analyst didn't agreed. Strangely the anaylst are the one that drives the stock markets not the companies issuing their shares, at least in my world.

I did, but it seems you missed the point. I was looking at figures not opinions. Secondly I don't have evidence WoW lost 50% of subs its 1st 6 months, can you link any sources? TIA

Look, it's really not a matter of 'hate' here, just look at the situation as it is. The subs are down and are down far beyond expectation. Saying and (I guess) believe such drop off is a 'good news' its, in my opinion, simply not facing the reality. Even the BBC made an article obout it. BBC NEWS - Star Wars: The Old Republic's subscriber numbers fall Moreover I don't like to do comparison but again the facts are there. So far we know, according to EA, the active subs in SWTOR are 1.3M dropped from 1.7, right? Do we agree on these figures? Well the 'Panda lovers & kiddie game' aka WoW have, as per today, 10.2M active subs. Period. You can argue endlessly but when I found myself on a server with 20 player online I can't call it MMO anymore.

Having my main & alts on Tyrus Academy I know the feeling... Back to the thread question just have a look at my signature

18 days left, will not renew. Top 5 reasons: 1. MMO - Maybe its me but where's the 1st 'M'? 2. Paying a monthly fee to play a Single Player game? No thanks. 3. Far too easy HMs & OPs; 4. No end game content, once you're 50 boredom is upon you; 5. Go to 1. Cheers, Keef - Lvl 50 Jug/Tank Griso - Lvl 50 Merc/DPS Ellroy - Lvl 50 Op/DPS

But again, just to repeat myself, we're here speculating about what should be done, how, when etc. Not a single feedback from Ea/Bio except the 'early summer' statement so far, meanwhile the community keep struggling... How sad.

We can keep speculating endlessly but the facts are there and remain unanswered so far. On my server EU/EN Tyrus Academy at prime time we have an avarage of 30/40 players on fleet since several weeks now. Having already 3 lvl 50, 1 lvl 40 and a Legacy lvl 29 I'm not going to renew my subscription to play a single player game. If EA/BW are not interested in my money it's their problem not mine.

Agree!

@Woetoo Just trust me, I took the following screenshot 3 minutes ago.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68593885/FleetTyrusAcademy.jpg Server: Tyrus Academy Imperial Fleet at 0800PM GMT+2, 34 players...

The whole point is that the vast majority of the EU server are affected by the problems we're discussing here... Hence just pick any 'light' popuplated server in EU. The fact is that when we picked our server at game release it was floating between normal to heavy, now its like a desert. Our guild is on Tyrus Academy. Btw I pay these guys to play a MMO and so far, apart the guild mates, its even hard to arrange an HM. It seems you feel like we're all whiners here... Just tell us the truth, are you a EA/BW emplee undercover right? Ehehe

Unfortunately not, feel free to check yourself, but it's a quite common situation recently, at least in most EU servers.

Yep, I know it will be a problem, but the point is they rushed to add servers before looking at the real figures (clearly overestimated). And for my experience this is the best way to kill a mmo. What really puzzle me is that EA/BW were perfectly aware of the risk, I still remember back in December during the beta weekend with people complaining about the the long queues and the Dev replies were just pointing at the problem that 'adding too many server is risky'. Now it's May and we have (again in EU) 95% of the servers empty...

Sorry, I probably had to specify, I'm referring to the EU/EN situation. counted about 90 Server, 3 have 'Standard' population, the rest are light (almost empty I would say). Are these figures a bit unbalanced or it's just me?

No problem to start over, at least for me, having already 3 lvl 50 and 1 lvl 40, the question is... There are no 'more populated servers'... That's the real issue and that's why more and more people are quitting swtor.