Its childish? Why is leaving a game if you lose all of your chars childish? We play that game with our chars, if they are gone or are left alone on a dead server with 23 others where you had 1000 before then this is a serious issue. I do know that names, server community are not important for everyone but for me these things are a key element in an MMO. And as I said, i had the same situation at AoC and Warhammer - you may laugh but I seem to be very unlucky there, its like a repeating nightmare that occured the 3rd time now. And I doubt I am alone with that issue, this thread and others do prove that the whole transfer move of BW was not very well done, necessary at some servers yes - but at all? I doubt that, especially if I look at my server which had pvp action all day, planets with enough players for multiple hero quest´s etc. You might have been lucky regarding the transfers but not everyone was. Even if 70% were happy and 30% unhappy then those 30% are too many allready. I quit because I dont have the time to start from 0 and playing with only 23 others is pretty much pointless in an MMO, something you should also understand. I wasnt happy when they added dps meters, announced LFG, cancelled solo rated or lowered the graphics for those with bad pc´s, did I quit? No I didnt, so calling me a child is just

Yes and No. I play since pre rerelease, and I was a bit sad about the missing graphic sliders like grass rendering distance, the lack of solo ranked pvp (which has now been confirmed finally) or also the introduction of dps meters and LFG but still I was always defending the game here at the forum if someone did complain about performance, no groups, or queue´s and bugs. After all SWTOR is a damn good MMO and this since day 1! But yes, the whole "if you dont transfer your server is dead, but you lose all names if you transfer" has also made me change my mind. I will still not post whine threads here or insult BW employee´s but I cancelled a few days ago to show BW that transfers were more bad than good in my case. I have a "pre story" here so I do react a bit heavy on that topic, as I had the same at Warhammer and AoC once when they closed my servers for weird reasons and I lost all chars there too. I did love both games, even tho they had major bugs at release but when I lost my chars I also quit and never came back. At Tor the same thing happened now and again I cant do anything and I am tired of always starting from 0 again. If Blizz did 1 thing right, then it is their server management. I have my chars and nothing can happen to them, no matter how long I dont play or how many people complain about not finding a group. In the end its just very sad and as much as I understand their reason, as much I dont understand why it had to be my server and why they cant find a better solution for names. The game is great, the people that maintain the forum do well and also their support is great, they do know how important solo q is and did confirm it now. Keep this up and please find a solution for multiple names

I feel the pain of those that lost their names, the whole transfer thingy killed my server and I would need new names now too, if I transfer. I stopped playing because of it Do I blame BW or other players? Well not really, but it is indeed sad as I was also one of those that did pre order and made 8 chars right at the start, all of them having their own story, in a good RP environment. I am unsure why MMO´s do struggle with multiple names still, we are in the year 2012 it should not be an issue tbh. It would be wrong to delete chars of those that dont play anymore as they might come back some day, but it is also wrong to force about 50% of the players to rename their toons. Now that BW does focus on 1 RP, 1 PVP, 1 PVE Server they need to find a solution and as soon they do, I will be happy to renew my acc as the game is really great, one of the better ones that I played in the last 10 years. Edit: I also never demanded transfers, we had about 1000 players online at prime - the server was fine. Some people did need a transfer, those at ghost servers but all? No, I dont think so!

We all know that this is not true. My server was healthy and standard before the transfers but has 23 players online right now. I mean its really not hard to see that staying behind is the end of the game for you, as you will be alone then. No pvp pops, no more dungeons or raids etc. I do also wish that BW would had not done the whole transfer thingy in such a mandatory way. Dead servers with maybe only 100 players online average should have gotten transfers but not those with about 1000. It cant be changed now, the boy did fall in the water so to speak but ya its sad for those that have many alts or are just very strict in RP and need to start from 0 again now.

I think we define troll different Anyways, am I mad? Well Id say a bit sad and disappointed that customers who have a sub since early access can be screwed over that easily. especially if you did never blame BW for bugs, or performance issues and did stay on your high pop server even with 60 min queues. I am not saying that those who dont have the names aslong as I do, should lose them but it was obvious that such issues would come up if they only want 1 RP server for europe. It would just had been wise to allow multiple names or something else before making such a transfer. Its always easy talking for those not affected, but if you lose 8 chars by this then its kinda gamebreaking

Nah I think there you are very wrong. If you are a true RP type of person then everything about your char matters for you. The look, the style of the equip, the story, the "friends" like here in this game the family tree. If 1 thing is gone, you have still your char but something is just missing. I dont know how you can accept this as an RP if your whole family changes its names, unless you come up with a story where they are all hunted and must hide. But then the true name should atleast be visible for yourself ingame In the end people have different opinions about that issue, which is fine. Some trolls unfortunately made it in the topic again... but still thanks for those who actually tried to give me some suggestions. I hope they manage the multiple names some day or a xrealm LFG (cant believe I am saying this )

Well, the server was standard not light Now it is light, yes. Both RP servers were btw. and BW seems to think that 1 RP is enough for EU and they picked Pro and not Trask. Ofc. I can only speak for myself if I talk about our population, I was playing there since early access and always found groups, even for the heroics etc. Also the people were very friendly, thats why I dont understand this move. As for my names, well I pick names always so that they fit my char thats why I play MMO´s always from day 1 or early access, as they are then still available. I dont have any Luke Skywalkers or something, or Lore names etc. Just names that I always use depending on the char and playstyle. And yes, they are important for me - I understand that names are not important for many of you, thats fine but for me they are. I will not open whine threads or anything, nah I never did I always enjoyed the game regardless of bugs or queue´s. But I will also not play any further and did just cancel, maybe BW can come up with multiple names someday then I will be glad to join you guys again. as the game is great since day 1. But to play further right now is not an option, I know I wouldnt have fun - I went through all of this at War and AOC and the chars are just not the same without their names.

I logged in today and saw that my server trask ulgo was free for transfers. Something which is weird, as we always had a healthy population and many hundred players online at the same time. Finding a group worked well in our LFG channel, only took about 10 minutes and pvp queues did pop regulary. Logging in today was a nightmare, only 39 other players were online... My guess is, that a lot people did move to the other RP server but now Trask is dead. Why kill a standard server like this, I dont get it. Moving aint an option for me, as all my names are taken allready. I am sure most other transfer options were fine, atleast people seem to be happy but for me the game now is over which is sad as it was a good game. I find it sad that those who made a char at early release are let down like this, especially if the server we were on was fine.

If you limit the access to a specific pool of players only, then you exclude people. Simple logic The game was great at release, you wow fans just killed it by your demands I would like to know which MMO has a working & good LFG tool. Wow has not, incase you wanted to add this. The wow tool has gear checks that are totally unrealistic. A 329 gear check for dungeons that people did on release in 320 and now after the nerfs do in 290. Still people kick those out of groups that do not have a 350+ gear value. How can you call this working'? Wow has totally lost the accesebility to new players and those on alts. Dual specs did also increase the ninja loot philosophie by a lot as people tend to roll on everything now but horrible suck as tank or healer, as they only wanted to get in quicker. The most successfull MMO is wow vanilla & TBC. There was no LFG in these games, except the stone portal. So please dont try to make things up, there are people in this forum who know the truth and will just make you look very bad WOTLK and Cata both lost many subs in EU and US, yes they are covered by the asians but still does wow not shine as much anymore as in vanilla and tbc. From my wow experience are those in full epics who use the LFG horrible players that stand in fire, cant support or just fail on boss mechanics. This is just wrong. Do you really think that someone joins a group if he has let´s say lvl 40 items? No he wont, he will just have lvl 50 equip like we all had when we did start. We managed to finish every FP, so I dont see why they cant especially as there will now always be someone with high gear in the group + the dungeons were nerfed. You might talk a bit too much about yourself there, you might not be able to play good without overgearing content - thats fine, but you should also understand that there are better players than you who can. Even if BW add´s such a score, people like you will still kick everyone out who is not going to carry you. Cmon, we all played wow, we know how these things work / failed.

I will most likely quit when I did test 1.3. LFG killed wow and I am afraid it will kill Tor aswell. I will try a few runs with my tank, if I meet those kiddie "gogogo", "dps roxxors" like at wow, I am gone. Since solo ranked pvp is not in 1.3 there is nothing for me to enjoy @ GW2 hype Puplic quest´s etc. will fail very soon, nobody of you played Warhammer? After a week or 2, nobody bothered with them anymore. Also is GW2 a pay to play game, if you dont want to be weak you must put money into micro transactions - that just suxx.

The best pvp I had in an MMO was vanilla wow, and it was server only. You will know who you play against and with and this makes it so special, xrealm will never achieve anything like this and is very boring. Unfortunately made BW the mistake with solo queue´s as we dont have them at Tor. So about 80% of the players cant do pvp, even if they wanted to.

Crafting should always support the player, no matter if he is raiding, pvping or Rping. Right now crafting is great during lvl up, for Rping ok but for raiding and pvp atleast in my opinion to weak. I did love the crafting of wow at vanilla and tbc, you could always get stuff by crafting that was only available there. For instance the shadow, cold, fire resistance gear - something like this is needed here.

And with how many people did you have a conversation that week at wow? How many did you put on your f-list and how many did you invite to your guild / played again with? The answer will most likely be none, and this is why wow aint an MMO but a Singleplayer game with bot support. Its just that those bots are controlled by human part´s - but MMO is something else. At Tor you might not do as many dungeons, but you have atleast people on your f-list, a working guild and fun by talking to others. People need to stop and glorify wow as an MMO, it is not an MMO anymore. The MM died at WOTLK, vanilla and to some degree atleast in pve TBC were awesome MMO`s - but then the MM feeling was gone.

Dual spec did not solve anything at wow, so why should it here? Blizz had to hand wellfare pet´s, mounts etc. to tanks so that they queue up Dual spec will just deliver more bad players, as they queue as tank or heal even tho they dont have the gear or skill for that spec, as they are always dps.

Lets be honest, do you really think people queue for a raid if they just dinged 50? They will simply not, I have very seldom seen something like that and I play MMO´s for a decade. Most people will just follow the normal way of the game, but will soon be tired of running the same difficulty all the time and beeing bombed by the elitist crowd with "get better gear" or losing gear to a ninja (what will happen a lot in LFG´s). So they try to get it and join a higher difficulty. The issue is, that you cant progress like we did on release anymore. The crowd on your server will push you into harder dungeons, because if you dont have their gear you are not welcome in their groups. That problem we have every day at wow, people see themselfs and think everyone should and can have the same equipment. There is a thread at the pvp forum, which does show this very well too. New players have it hard at todays MMO´s. Ok lets get this straight, the LFG is for Casuals! In every "we need LFG" thread those that wanted it claimed "we casuals have a life and cant search for groups, we need LFG´s". Now that the LFG was designed so that Casuals can play better, you elitist demand that Casuals dont use it? Are you beeing serious? Just go with your guild, the tool is not for your kind. But ya, I know at wow the elitist´s also never understood that