after reading all this jive.. the old man decided to try out the operative.. luckily i had a max level operative.. so i chose the dot spec.. brought 306 gold gear and fully amped it out.. since i had alot of it in storage like the mods.. since the old man have a few billions laying around.. ( when you get over 4 billion credits.. you get message you reaching the limit).. so i brought them overpriced shiny gold 306 augments.. so i spec into lethality.. i read the abilities of the class and what the skills do.. ask guildie who is top rank operative what abilities to take.. all this out of the way.. que for warzone.. got a hypergate.. 3 people went to cap..i sap all 3 until i had to attack to stop cap.. i killed 2 /3.. basically spamming dot aoe's..rolling and free healing.. then the zerg finally came.. what i do, throw a flash bomb and stealth away giving them the /laugh emote.. i was basically spamming my dots doing my damage.. here is the crux of scenario.. i was 1 vs 4 and they couldn't kill me.. since i play every class rep and pub side.. i basically know the animations for the big hitters and i pop my reflect .. then i run around spamming dots and stunning.. if i see them closing in , i do a roll and use the instant heal.. when the zerg comes i just stealth away and laugh.. basically i'm saying , on a operative i will not DIE in any reg wz's.. if you dying as a operative, you doing something wrong.. yes the class is slippery, easy damage and hard to kill.. they might need some reworking and the holotraverse is king.. even if i have no stealth...if i got a player near me..i can tele to him and get away..haha

guess I play the devil's advocate on this topic.. some people gonna hate me after I say this little piece of information.. what the op said is half the truth.. I can verify this type of thing happen, with certain people.. there's a trick or exploit what it truly is in meaning.. I had this happen to me against an operative.. name I won't say (terms of service).. I was on my shadow in a void star I was guarding the door in stealth.. operative roll up and started capping the door.. well of course I gonna mind sap him for 8 seconds and call for help but I couldn't target the operative.. so the door got capped and I got called all kinds of names for letting him cap.. after the match I went to there team speak channel ( this was before any discord).. I knew the operative personally cause we played war hammer online in same server.. anyways I ask what the hell happened.. he apologize saying he didn't know I had a shadow.. he told me it is somehow, he turn off his internet while he is capping.. some kind of way when that happens the game shows you like offline.. so if somebody target you it will be like you don't exist,, wait a few seconds and hook back up your internet.. then you will be in game again.. but you will already had capped the door.. it is more to this and it been so long ago and I was drinking tequila.. he said he learned this from Euro servers playing over there.. because people have alot of slow internet connections and high latency which the trick work better.. meaning maybe an Aussie have high latency and this trick will work better on them.. due to there internet being slow..it will take longer for the frames or something to catch up.. I'm no tech genius, but this probably what is happening.. I wouldn't call it a hack but a bad glitch by Bioware.. he said people connection have alot to do with this trick being able to work and also the person doing it.. must be accurate on there timing, or they won't be able to come back to the same game.. so I'm guessing this might had happened.. if so people shouldn't do it, but to each there own.. it is a problem Bioware need to fix.. cause there servers and game is the source of this problem..

Let the old man shed some light.. in rank warzone even yolo's.. most team will burn a tank 1st.. especially if he guarding.. you trying to guard and keep team alive.. good players in rank will cc healer.. or just focus and burn you down guard and all.. experience dpser's who know what to do in rank.. that full tank gear is useless.. you get more skank tanking and at least doing damage.. in arena rank name of the game is dps race.. who can kill the enemy team fastest.. lot of people not trying to make it to acid round.. lastly this gonna leave a bad taste in my mouth.. i gotta agree with Septru on this topic.. with internal and armor penetration mit gear is useless in rank.. word of advice from the grapevine.. if you ever have Septru on your team.. make sure you guard if anybody else.. cause if he or she dies.. they will vote kick you from group even if you won the round..

dude or girl.. you can't go by that metrics.. a lvl 10 sorc will beatdown almost any class in lowbies wz's even if they at lvl 74.. some classes perform better than others at lower level.. lot of it is skill and you probably beat up on new people.. i'm not saying you are a bad player, a cry baby (but that's another post for a boring day)..

actually my wifey is the healer. she can throw down with the best of them in regs or rank. i'm your herp derp run of the mill dps. i suck at healing, no patience. i just watch her when she playing and listening to her. she was the one that wrote all the info for you. i don't have the attention span or patience to think that far ahead. women can't live with or without them. haha

guess i play the good role for once.. you came here looking for help.. gonna tell you what not being told.. for starters before going any further.. learn to key bind and move with mouse.. in regs you can get away with it to some degree.. but in rank you gonna die fast and your team.. this is reason for key binding.. you need to be looking at the screen at all times checking your team health.. it is hard to stare at your skill bar, mouse clicking and watching the screen.. healing in rank is situational awareness at all times.. moving with the mouse let you kite away when pesky dps is on your tail.. first solve this problem before you decide to fix anything else.. this is resulting in about 60% of you under healing.. next is priority healing.. your tank and melee you want to keep them healed.. tank is keeping the damage off of you.. mercs, sorcs, and snipers.. if these 30 meter range classes is within 10 meter range.. let them fend for themselves.. there is no reason for range dps to be in that close.. when they have means to escape.. it sound harsh, but it's the truth.. next is your dcd's.. if you got a melee class chasing you 24/7.. hit him with electro net or use your 8 second instant cast mezz.. if you get crowded use your aoe knockback.. if all that fails use your rocket out.. that should get you out of range to regroup.. also use your shield and chafe.. take your talents that you need for those skills.. your most important cd is your reflect.. the biggest mistake i seen in rank.. mercs popping there reflect shield right after they get stun or mezz the 1st time.. then they get white bar and globaled.. save your reflect shield when you get white bar and your cc breaker is on cooldown.. no merc should ever get globaled dps or healer.. your heal to full dcd pop that if you is low on cells or your med pack on cooldown and you is under attack .. also want to throw in a good healer will also know when to cleanse.. sometimes using a gcd to cleanse your dps can decide life or death.. because being stunned and focus fire.. you wont be able to out heal the damage if they are good dps.. that cleanse could be the way a mara for example can force camo and get away.. lastly never play the numbers game in reg warzones.. alot of healers just go in to fluff numbers.. especially if they have alot of tanks and heals.. if your team is killing them fast enough where they don't need healing.. that will also affect your total hps.. i know healers that will stand in the acid in hutt ball middle and just spam aoe heals to fluff big hps numbers.. this the basics you should learn.. they have more than this and i could type forever.. alot of it you will get through trial and error.. also they have good guides and videos you can refer to.. but don't expect to play like them.. everybody have different play styles.. get a style that work for you by using there style as a reference..

who need any reward for pvp, just killing people is reward enough.. i give you some room on the gear.. the old way worked pvp gear was needed.. if you was to lazy to grind the few warzone comms.. then you deserve to get destroyed in pvp wearing raiding gear.. gearing system just find somebody to craft what you need.. i craft my own gold augs on main account which save alot of time and money.. you can do the same, since you feel everything you do in warzones, is fine by others.. so other people crafting there gear or getting amps you can do also, by your logic..

my issue..my toons alrdy deck in gold augs.. i dont need to win a reg warzone for credits or valor alrdy 100.. saying this for the people who is getting hurt the most.. win or lose i don't care... i'm fully geared there nothing reg or rank can offer me.. so your "YOU" issue don't apply to me.. just going by the complaints from other people trying to win and finish warzones quests.. they have team mates who don't care and drag them down.. also you trust Biofail words about population.. make your statement sound more ludicrous.. everybody know Biofail lies..

this is your opinion and you is entitled.. if you been playing this game long enough you should know people careless about any incentives.. i do regs during the day and usually ,do rank at night.. here's the crux of your answer.. say i did weekly and daily, and i join warzone just to farm numbers.. i alrdy did the quest so it don't matter if i win or lose.. they have people who think this way.. better yet 4 guildies make premade and they finish weekly and daily.. they just queing for warzones to farm people and numbers.. they don't care about winning.. tell me if that is fair to the other 4 people trying.. where the old way if you lose, still get credit for quest and move on to next warzone.. Raansu this what i mean by having your cake and ice cream.. it can't work both ways and somebody gonna always be unhappy.. your fairy tale opinion is your choice.. let face the real facts that what you typed isn't happening in warzones at this moment..

one of the best mmo's with a pvp balance is guild wars 1 and 2.. bioware can take from them.. once you reach level 10, you que for a warzone.. you get boosted to level 75 with all skills and talent tree.. make it 3 minute wait before warzone so people can choose the talents.. problem solved.. this would make people learn how to play there class properly.. as they be facing veterans at level 75.. also when they get scaled include the augments..at least advance augment 74.. that way all class skills and talents.. it would be a even fight.. then it will come down to skill and who is the better player.. doing it this way.. you can do level 10-75.. also this would solve alot of population problems.. people need to learn there class and best way is to play against veterans..

it's verified.. I did rank on euro servers and American servers.. each time my sin just pommeled the competition.. this was going against teams of 4 ops or mix of sins.. don't take my word for it.. get a set and use it for yourself.. actually it's not hard to figure out how to use from mods and amps.. HAPPY KILLINGS.. also be nice if other sins give input on there experiences using the gear set..

Probably first time I ever gave credit to a gamer for coming up with a winner.. I got a full murderous revalation set.. when people get the knack of how this set works.. they will be forum crying for nerf.. I was critting 55k discharges and 89k maul crits.. to make the set work they have a certain set of abilities, mods and amps.. i'm not gonna go in detail.. cause i want to enjoy it first just beating everything almost.. i was 1 vs 1 operatives in warzones.. a few i beat most of them just vanish and ran away from low hp.. but i would advise any deception sin get the set.. it is better than death knell.. the damage is crazy.. I already had a few people sending messages saying REPORTED for game hacking.. that's when you know a gear set is good.. but if a certain sweet female sin player ask me to post the formula ..i might be incline and even do a stream showing how the rotation should go.. so to that female sin player, i threw the ball in your court.. just go to our discord to find me..

all my post, this is probably first one that I fuss to Bioware.. in 10+ years playing SWTOR I accepted the way they do things good or bad (mostly bad).. I been out for 4 to 5 months COVID is real.. back to topic.. I do regular warzones to pass the time.. now the daily and weekly is you need to win in order to get credit.. it took me 5 hours almost to finish daily and weekly.. Bioware if you want to go this route you gonna have to compromise on a few issues.. mainly warzones is objective base and let be honest most people give a crap about objectives.. you can't complain or blame them it is there choice how they choose to play.. which the old quest you get credit win or lose.. it kind of balance out.. meaning if your team just farm numbers and you lose still credit toward quest.. this new quest system is basically punishing people and this is how.. you que with intention to win warzone and finish quest.. you playing to win but your other teammates careless about winning.. maybe they already finish quest or in premade and want to farm people.. there are many different reasons.. Bioware you took a simple solution for PVP dailies and turn it into a grief show..it is frustrating you spending hours to finish quest.. because of other people not caring.. nobody is to blame except Bioware, you is the author of this monster you created.. Bioware either put the PVP quest to how they was or remove objectives from warzones.. you got to compromise and meet us players on middle ground.. as of now you want your cake and ice cream.. they have ways to work the warzones where they can function without objectives.. because warzones now is mostly deathmatches.. For starters make the nodes give a buff like 5% damage etc.. if team want to cap node to get buff.. if not they can kill each other.. the team with most kills at the end of warzone wins.. mostly this is what people want.. alot of people won't agree.. that's fine cause you can't have everything in life your way.. this is just an example.. think I said enough and gonna end things here.. Bioware i hope you read this and take it to heart.. people can also express there views keep things civil if possible.. as things are now it's like i'm gambling in vegas do I get a good team to win and finish PVP quest..

arsenal already have armor penetration built into the build.. having more or less is your choice.. since you is playing the toon.. if you decide on mixing make sure you have a optimal balance.. basically all what you can say on your topic..

this is gonna leave a bad after taste in my mouth.. few times in this game i agree with your post.. many games do this now.. let say lvl 10 be geared as lvl 75 and pvp with all the perks.. this will also make you learn your class by playing against skilled players.. also this should help out the population in que time..