If you do not understand the burnout rate of MMO's, especially SWTOR that has pretty much ignored PVP for the last few years, and the need for a new player influx to replace drop out losses for the later lvl 60 brackets than you have missed the boat. If people get discouraged at 15 from ever pvping again, then PVP in this game will die off even more.

The story lines will be the same for Sith, so if you don't mind seeing them twice, go for it.

The server isn't closing. It does have lower population than the other servers, but speaking from experience on other servers I'd rather have 120 people in fleet actually in que for something than 400 people in fleet instances with 300 of them standing around doing nothing. I don't know about end game participation, but the lower levels are fine.

As far as not letting gunslingers in, a easy RP reason to would be that gunslingers could represent private military contracts (ie hired guns) something that every sophisticated army IRL uses, to supplement your active troops.

I think what he was saying that while, yes on the PVP servers you *could* PVP on Illum but you can also PVP on Hoth. Illum was designed to be a PVP planet and now it just has a few dailies on it. Also, while I like the 2 new warzones, that makes 2 since launch. I'm hoping the rate in which warzones go live is shorter than 1 every six months.

So far I like the group of guys, I haven't had a chance to run much operations or groups with them since Im still in the recruitment phase, but hanging out in the shoutbox on the website everyone is pretty responsive and friendly. The recruitment process is a bit long, but I can understand their concern about problem players. If your looking for a decent and easy going group, this is a good place to start.

I've played on a few of the other servers, and I can say that the Jung Ma guilds are some of the more squared away guilds. The only reason I can think of is that RP-PVP draws a different type of crowd.

I've jumped over to the Ebon Hawk Server, simply because I still like to play but would like to play with more than a handful of people. When they allow transfers, most likely after F2P, then I'll wait to see if Jung Ma becomes active again. My biggest gripe about Ebon Hawk is when a I see a jedi in open world and I cannot kill him. That is why I originally came to RP PVP server. I have every intention of coming back to jung ma, but right now there just isn't enough people online to make it worth my while. I know that at some point they will allow some form of transfers so it isn't a big deal to make new characters since I'm assuming at some point I can transfer them all back together. I'm sure there are other active people doing the same.

The server transfers before were quick, and seamless. I doubt there is any physical transfer of data. The fact they want to charge is also ridiculous

There was a world PVP event on Hoth a few weeks ago.

I rolled up a character for Ebon Hawk just to see. The population is larger than Pot5, and I've had no problems getting into warzone after warzone. The nice side of it that is that it is still a RP server. Instead of trying to flee to a PVP server, where your just going to do warzones anyway, there is still a large RP community on Ebon Hawk. Moving to RP with the Jung Ma Refugees on Pot5 would be the same as just staying on Jung Ma. With open world PVP pretty much not existent, I'd rather still keep the RP and the PVP than just the PVP. Plus I believe for RP events you can just tag yourself as PVP in open areas.

I'm pretty sure I recently traded comms for WZ at 10 to 1 not too long ago, and I thought that was included in 1.4 But these new changes, especially with the 10m stuns for BH / Trooper is ridiculous. I should have to close with a melee guy to get inside his jump to range to try and stun him. The patch does benefit healers now if they can stay somewhat outside, as they don't have to worry about being stunned to break chain heals from guys in the actual melee area. BH / Troopers were not the stun problems it was the packs of cloaked operatives stun locking the hell out of people - which hasn't changed in 1.4 WHO 1). Thought this was the issue facing PVP was wrong and WHO 2). Thought this was a good fix was also wrong.

This could be attached to the fact that war hero gear is now cheaper, and warzone to ranked warzone comms transfer at a 3 to 1 as opposed to a 10 to 1 previously.

He is a troll, and idiot and obviously not worth having a conversation. It is just as easy for me to say bioware is killing PVP by adding ANOTHER PVE instance to draw people away from PVP. He is an embarrassment to any group he represents and should be ignored as such.

Well, nothing has happened so there isn't a need to choose yet. While I am a vocal proponent of doing something because of low pop levels, it is important to note that when this all went a go a year ago the RP-PVP servers were all maxed out. The transfers of people to this server, and the number of either subscribed or unsubed but selected to this server would be more than enough to keep people active. People have chosen to abandon the RP-PVP server. In biowares eyes why protect a dead concept if people either are not interested in logging in, or waiting for F2P to figure out what they want to do. Personally I love this server, I love the open world PVP, I love the RP aspect. You will not find the caliber of people that flock to this type of server on any other server.