I've always enjoyed these threads Spooky, Hatred Sin, Guild is Vaccine 20629 DPS, 14089663 Damage (with 8 deaths): https://imgur.com/FCIXXCa 22009 DPS Arena: https://imgur.com/gallery/SUe9fec 71 Kills and 22 Killing Blows https://imgur.com/a/RqGT2hA 4259379 Protection: https://imgur.com/a/pkMngeo 9934018 Damage Taken (If that's a thing) https://imgur.com/EFHOrt6 19 Deaths: https://imgur.com/a/dobhn4j

Friendly advice: please extend season 12 to 6.2 to give adequate time for group ranked players to achieve the win requirement.

I have a group of eight interested in getting the Crest. We’re looking for 8-12 NiM raiders to get runs going.

I’m down. I have all the prerequisites for dreadful entity and hateful essence and I’d like to get a group to farm hateful enough for everyone in the group to get crests. I’m also interested in timed NiM runs as well as NiM Gods. Message/mail Spooky Season on Star Forge Imp side. I main hatred. My parses are 23.8K on 3.25 mil and 23.5K on 6.5 mil.

22K DPS in midbies lmao. No set, tac, etc. Fun times https://imgur.com/a/XGw2CKg

Took 3 weeks but here's a 20K DPS Spooky Season (Hatred Sin) Highest DPS (20629) and Highest Overall Damage (14089663) https://imgur.com/gallery/h2At0vZ

As if 9.5K DPS is good? The opposing team to him also did almost no DPS so... what do you expect? Besides, can't be as bad as a freecasting hatred sin https://imgur.com/a/FU3GtuP

Doesn't change the point about deception being balanced. If you don't care about g ranked, and I'm not denying that the scene has a very very small population and is irrelevant to 99% of players, then just ignore that part. In s ranked it's good, but not as good as pt tank, mm sniper, carnage mara, and a few others. In regs it's no better than any other single target burst. I haven't even seen 15K+ DPS as decep in a game, nor have I done it myself which is sad. Get rid of tac swapping on stealth, but nerfing deception would be odd considering it is not the best spec at anything aside from maybe initial burst, which won't kill a good player anyway.

If you think Deception is "overpowered" I have something for you. https://imgur.com/a/XSWnsec Tunnelled by Moq (Season 10 Top 3 sin) and Techniques (one of the best deception players I've seen on SF). Point is that Deception's sustained DPS is so garbage that no matter how good the player is, they can lose to a hatred sin taking 8.4 mil damage on 15 deaths... If you think deception is too good, maybe the best route is to get better at your own spec. For the record, deception swaps 100% loses to PT pressure in 4s. In regs, a few good DoT spec players (or even just one if the healer(s) are not prepared) will wipe a team before a decep sin (or 3 for that matter) can kill them. Example: https://imgur.com/gallery/rLljdgV

If you think Deception is "overpowered" I have something for you. https://imgur.com/a/XSWnsec Tunnelled by Moq (Season 10 Top 3 sin) and Techniques (one of the best deception players I've seen on SF). Point is that Deception's sustained DPS is so garbage that no matter how good the player is, they can lose to a hatred sin taking 8.4 mil damage on 15 deaths...

As if anything under 15K is "good..."

A lot of bad players complaining... Deception is good for globalling RPers in regs and it's good in s ranked vs uncoordinated mat farmers, but it is not the meta in 4s and it is not even overpowered in any other setting. Show me a deception swaps team beating pt pressure in g ranked. It can't happen. Also, show a deception parse that goes over 25K DPS or show a deception sin doing over 15K DPS (an okay benchmark for "good") in regs. It's quite sad to see people hyped on 8-10K DPS as deception as well, as if below average numbers that can be done playing jugg tank indicate a DPS spec should be nerfed. I don't understand where people are coming from calling for a deception nerf when Vengeance can use slam on GCD, PT tank can do 30K DPS in 4s, and merc healers are uninterruptible 80% of the time. Deception will ALWAYS get outDPSd by DoT specs in regs once cleave takes DPS potential above ~14K and it is NOT the meta in 4s. It is high tier overall across all forms of content, but in no way is it deserving of a nerf. Lastly, if you're going to claim that 10K DPS is nerf worthy (very funny since I've done 10K+ a dozen times in 5.X) here is a comparison of two somewhat average games I've had playing both assassin specs: 13.4K DPS Deception game single targeting https://imgur.com/a/gkTQFfw 17.4K DPS Hatred game where I doubled 2nd place (a very good Rage Jugg) and negated two healers https://imgur.com/gallery/rLljdgV Notice how the opposing team had 3 deception assassins and still got farmed. See the difference... lol. Deception is overrated.

Updating thread. Also here are some of mine Spooky Season <Pwnography> Protection (4259379) https://imgur.com/a/pkMngeo Damage Taken (7703857) https://imgur.com/a/ZJkU4QG Damage Taken (8444108) https://imgur.com/a/XSWnsec DPS (17376.88) and Damage (10669406) https://imgur.com/gallery/rLljdgV DPS (15295.74) and Damage (11655356) on 12 deaths https://imgur.com/a/JpmA5DA DPS (15236.25) https://imgur.com/a/KaG2a03 Bonus DPS (13429.91) as Deception single targeting... https://imgur.com/a/gkTQFfw

Spooky Season (Hatred Sin) -Pwnography DPS: 18521.59 https://imgur.com/gallery/eYxjgBE 17548.2 https://imgur.com/a/ryh5LIt 16814.64 https://imgur.com/a/t9BLOPI Biggest Hit: 85746 https://imgur.com/a/JkakCue 2nd day of 6.0

First day of 6.0 I saw Cease hit for 84K https://imgur.com/a/qmgDwfP