Don't be a clown. You need a nerf. End.

Ok... I will do my best to be nice here. First, i appreciate you putting the effort in to 'try' to help people. I am vengeance spec - have been since forever. Having said that: Everything with your vengeance video is wrong. So very wrong. I don't have time to list them all (its alot) - so I will note a few. -----Your spec is not good at all. Not sure why you are wasting points to take more armor or to make Sunder Armor get more rage when rage is NOT an issue with Vengeance spec (in pvp). Get brutality for your execute procs and Malice for crit on your dots. -----Matrix cube? That stopped being useful pre- 1.6. Stop using it.. right now. I am embarrassed for you if you're still using it. -----Power augments are garbage when you get more from str with your 6% str boost talent. Hope that helps.

No.

Main stat is too low and doesn't offer the stat boost i require based on how i prioritize my needs. The crit is far more reliable in my current state. I would never taint myself by being a smasher. I prefer playing something thats not FOTM(year)

ugh.. i wish i had more time to make videos. I have like 220 gigs of raw footage that i cant seem to find the time to edit. Good vid man. Tanking in pvp is boring as all hell (IMO) but you make it look good!

OP, Ignore this post 100% Don't speak in ignorance. I solo Q as Vengeance and I am 1700 ranked with 62/22 record. Do not do that nonsense of guarding someone as a dps... its so goofy.

Andov? Sounds like a type of lubrication.

The whole team sounded like a bunch of quitters to begin with TBH. That alone set you up for failure.

Well they are on tier'd on the same level. there are far more mid-tier items for PvE. Don't compare the stat boosts because they do not calculate the expertise or bolster on the character sheet. When you go into a warzone, open your character sheet and you will see a different min-max damage.

/facepalm Matrix cube has never been best in slot since expertise meant something. Its like those clowns who still put pve inserts in because they actually think they will do better without being expertise capped. LOL... clowns. It is hard to say what is BiS because the absorb relic is broken right now and everyone should have one. But I run with serendipitous and devastating vengeance.

omg.. people still using matrix cube just show me how many noobs there still are.

Rage doesn't need sh|t. An infant can play this spec. The damage is far superior than any other warrior spec mara or jugg. The drawback is you are soft. Deal with it.

You know what? I'm going to go throw my face into an industrial printer. I'LL SHOW YOU

They are all equally soft. Its just true. Every time i see a sorc/sage in arena they melt like butter. Including on my team.

Its stupid really.