good stuff so far in this thread ...

I'm a sage played since launch I cabeat ANY equally geared equally skilled sniper slinger with LOS techniques period end of story and god help the ones that have worse gear / connection / crappy pc / or are mouse clickers ... They do not stand a chance This game is rock paper scissors ... Cant believe so many have not figured that out .. Now there is one class that destroyed me as well when we are equally geared skilled ... It's same for all classes In a nutshell quit whining and except there will always be one class that you will have a hard time with and one class you will have an easy time with and several you will be even with Every time someone gets owned for whatever reason ... It's because the other class is too powerful and they cannot except it could be gear / skill / Internet connection / having a crappy pc / or the rock paper scissors class that is just going to have an advantage over yours after certain patches until the next patch down the road might make another class your classes nemesis ... Focus on the ones your even with or the one you have an advantage over and use your teammates skills to overcome the match Sheen but enough with all the whinefesting already

Since sages / sorcs are meh in other war zones can y'all let them have one useful thing in this one war zone lolz

Sorcerer/ sage of equal equiptment and skill "should" beat sniper every single time In case you have not figured it out the pvp in this game when all things are equal is rock paper scissors The tricky part which confuses so many is equipment and skill are almost never exactly equal So each player has his/her own paradigm of over and under powered classes- since the equipment or skill or Internet connection or just plain crappy PC could "never be the reason" said players are losing in PVP - *sarcasm off:eek:

what is with you guys bioware ... Ive played MMOS's since Meridian 59 thats almost damn near 20 years IVE NEVER SEEN THIS MUCH DOWNTIME CONTINUALLY EVER IN ANY MMO and ive played about every dang one of them more downtime tonight lolz shesh

Thanks for reading and answering .. I know jack about crafting I've never crafted in any mmo and I've played since meridian59 heh I'm old But I'm thinking of giving it a go finally .... Question is this ... I have 4 empire and 4 republic chars ... Do they need to duplicate crafting skills ? Or can they make things for each other even though in different factions ? Of do I need to re roll two toons to have 6 of one said to try all 6 professions ? Or I'm a free to use whatever character to craft and share his/her wares with my characters of other faction Thanks in advance fir clarifying

I'm not going to say your fibbing but .. Lolz There are no equally geared and skilled sorcere that can beat any other class one and one period All that damage and kills comes from worthless dots that don't kill jack But they do get credit for kills and damage The leader boards are EXTREMELY misleading but you have to have sound critical thinking and reasoning skills to understand that sage sorc are useless except as healers in a ranked WZ period Zero burst when it counts O wait they can prevent caps with force speed and fib they have one use it's utility at best And they can pull In huttball again utility

It's relative to disposable income I guess My only point was its not the game it's user side that causes lag in almost ALL instances That was my only point ... Many people blame lag on bioware when in fact it's on the user end Your pc is only sending and receiving 1's and 0's which isn't a bottle neck And I am hardly a bioware fan at the moment but I will defend them on the lag

SWTOR cannot be blamed for end users connection and rig I have an 8000 dollar gaming rig I built myself and is a beast I never lagged in illum even the day they allowed the imps to come into the republic camp everyone was ************ but I was rolling. Between 28-42 Fps so most of you ************ about lag it's just user side to a large degree IMHO

I don't do it Seems like a huge time waster But I guess the libertArian in me thinks ... So what they are enjoying it and it's their dime And most average peoPle will outlevel pre 50 war zones rather quickly I just dont think it's that big a deal Don't sweat the small stuff .... PvP pre 50 means nothing and is a short ride

Lol I only read about half this thread but .... If all you self proclaimed "skilled" players would like to challenge yourselves a little more in WZs It's super duper easy !!! Just back your gear Down to your old recruit gear and add battle master pieces after each WZ until you get the desired challenge level you wish ... And stop QQing It's really that simple take off your War hero pieces and back your gear Down until you find a challenge level you enjoy Most of the baddies noobs I would assume your referring too are just not completely geared yet and thus cannot match your uber skills ... ( gear ) Quit QQing it's not becoming as most of you self proclaimed PvP gods would be just average in a WZ where only full stick recruit gear was allowed for all ... End of story

not a huge deal but wheter they tolerate it or not if harrassed on pvp server i should have option to attack and if on a hut planet then maybe guards shoudl spawn to deal with with the aftermath ... i think they just shouldnt be mingling together unless its flaggerd pvp for that zone but just feels weird i normally dont even mind and leave other factions players alone most times but this is first time someone of other faction annoyed they heck out of me and nothing i could do

making rude emotes as im banking on this sanctuary is crap .. heh i should be able to attack if a player is being an jerk on a PvP server anytime i see them ... if the devs dont want us fighting we shouldnt be allowed in same area otherwise should be fair game imho ... its not like Open world pvp is anything to write home about in swtor anyway since it rarely happens anyway and the first time i had an urge to take someone out in open world in months on any character and i couldnt do it lolz becuase of carebare ruleset on pvp server ... but i digress maybe noone is bothered by the fact we jsut seem to intermingle like no big deal on nar shardaa not very good for rp but o well

For those of you saying they are fine in this thread LOLz I rolled a SAGE day one of early access and played him straight up to 1.2 at which point i quit i just came back to game and rolled another class a sniper and im having fun just level 25 but unless you want to heal as a sorc / sage your pathetic in PvP warzones now compared to ther classes Period end of story there is really no debate on that ... you will kill no other equally geared skilled class in game in a 1 v1 period

Why am i on Nar Shaddaa ... on a PvP server and an opposing faction just runs by stops emotes giving me the finger and when i go to attack nothing i cannot attack him .... Who at bioware thought it would be a cool Idea on a PvP server to not allow opposing Faction to PvP why would we we be hanging out in same area banking and such .... Im sure its fine on PvE server but on a PVP server i dont get why an opposing faction can stand and grief and mock you yet i cannot attack ... im assuming bioware didnt think this zone out very well for afterthought pvp servers? and the best part was when i asked in general why i couldnt attack him i got flammed and explained to why there didnt need to be open world pvp on every square inch of the game ... why is open world pvp so pathetic in SWTOR and why does bioware make it so hard to even Open wrold pvp til high levels period you would think by level 25 we could mix it up a little open world and teh first opposing faction i see in 25 levels mocks me and i cannot attack him on pvp server i just dont get it but o well