I'll tell ya right now its not how many kills, deaths, healing, damage you get or total number of flags. I have been in games to where we had the upper hand on all those but were defending the second round. It seems to go if hte second round group gets to the exact same spot as you they win plain and simple. Lol or this

I agree with this post except for one thing. Isn't this all considered Tier1 raids? Since we are just dealing with Hard Mode and Nightmare that is. My group have been labeling it as: T1 PvE = Tionese T1.25 PvE = Columi T1.5 PvE = Rakata Don't want to derail but thought it was worth posting to see some feedback.

Thanks, I know this is how it works I was just wondering if you were able to essentially be able to get heroic flashpoint OR operation level mods from crafting to put into orange craftable gear and weapons. I've heard that you would be able to basically get a piece of orange gear that you like the look of and mod it out with commendations or craftable gear. Therefor not having to grind flashpoints or operations except for the non-orange gear that you need. With crafting yeilding cybertech(armoring/mods), Artificing(hilt/enhancments), Armstech(barrels), slicing(augments). If it doesn't have equivalent end game level equipment then making a choice between main and alt crew skills would be easier to choose for myself in the min/maxing sense. Orange gear threw a wrench in my line of thinking you would be able to have the gear with the aesthetics you wanted without replacing it with operation gear later on.

So your saying that you could have BIS gear with Orange gear? Except for the 4 piece bonus for the armor pieces. Seems to be the opposite of what my friends are saying but the majority of forum chatter is this line of thinking. Thanks for that If Synth and Armortech make most the orange gear then does the crafting skills such as armstech(barrel), artificer(enhancement/hilt), cybrtech (mods/armoring) give operation level mods/enhancment since syth and armortech basically give the equivalent operation level through orange armor? This sounds great, I like the option to run end game for fun and fill in the couple pieces that I don't have the equivalent Orange pieces for. It also keeps the Economy for crafters in a good place if they can sell gear to those that don't run end game. Hope this really is the way it works. Thanks for the answers guys, it's taking me a bit to wrap my head around the way swtor is handling progression with the orange gear in the mix

C'Mon someone has to have some info on this

Anyone have any idea?

I'm wondering if Orange gear with the right mods are going to be the best gear in the game bar none? Is it possible for Orange gear to be better than operation gear later on? If so whats the point in synthweaving or armortech?

Not sure if this is the best place to post this but here goes. Ok so without an in depth guide I have been a bit confused on a few of the inner workings of certain aspects of SWTOR. First off I am normally very interested in raiding in all the games I played. With the new remodeled equipment customization I am wondering a couple things about gear progression. At first I thought FPs and Operations would be dropping mods mostly but in the updated gear post by the Devs it seems the first bosses will drop boots/hands and the last bosses will drop Chestpieces/Helms. Since we can customize the bronze/orange gear how will the progression for gear be in relation of optimal stats between heroic Flashpoint gear, Operation Gear and Orange customizable gear? I'm very interested in Orange gear since you can customize and keep the gear with the aesthetics that you like. Also are you able to customize with mods/enhancements your purple gear from FP and Operations? Right now I believe Green then Blue < Level 50 Flashpoint Purple < Orange Customizable Gear(with the right mods) < Purple Crafting Gear < Purple Operation Gear. Is this correct? If it is then the orange gear and crafting gear will eventually be replaced with Operation gear for those of us that min/max for optimal gear. I've heard mixed things about this so I'm a bit confused. Or is it Green then Blue < Level 50 Flashpoint Purple = Orange Customizable Gear(modded) = Purple Crafting Gear < Purple Operation Gear. Is Crafting gear worth getting at all if you have the counterpart of it in Orange gear? If so what would be the point for min/maxers in going Synthweaving or Armortech? Any insight is very much appreciated. Thanks!

Ok so without an in depth guide I have been a bit confused on a few of the inner workings of certain aspects of SWTOR. First off I am normally very interested in raiding in all the games I played. With the new remodeled equipment customization I am wondering a couple things about gear progression. At first I thought FPs and Operations would be dropping mods mostly but in the updated gear post by the Devs it seems the first bosses will drop boots/hands and the last bosses will drop Chestpieces/Helms. Since we can customize the bronze/orange gear how will the progression for gear be in relation of optimal stats between heroic Flashpoint gear, Operation Gear and Orange customizable gear? I'm very interested in Orange gear since you can customize and keep the gear with the aesthetics that you like. Also are you able to customize with mods/enhancements your purple gear from FP and Operations? Right now I believe Green then Blue < Level 50 Flashpoint Purple < Orange Customizable Gear(with the right mods) < Purple Crafting Gear < Purple Operation Gear. Is this correct? If it is then the orange gear and crafting gear will eventually be replaced with Operation gear for those of us that min/max for optimal gear. I've heard mixed things about this so I'm a bit confused. Or is it Green then Blue < Level 50 Flashpoint Purple = Orange Customizable Gear(modded) = Purple Crafting Gear < Purple Operation Gear. Is Crafting gear worth getting at all if you have the counterpart of it in Orange gear? If so what would be the point for min/maxers in going Synthweaving or Armortech? Any insight is very much appreciated. Thanks!