Almost 7hrs to download the 11.5Gb, now installing . . . 57% . . .

Download speeds are still ridiculously slow

Network error while downloading patch data. Retrying . . . Reboot client . . . Network error while downloading patch data. Retrying . . . Reboot client . . . Network error while downloading patch data. Retrying . . . Reboot client . . . Network error while downloading patch data. Retrying . . .

I just did the math, since the server is so slow I can expect to play between 7 and 14hrs from now.

3+Gb to go and the servers are swamped so my normal 10MBps is down to 50kbps. Someone should get fired.

Ha, that's exactly what I did. Then went concealment. Valor 55 and still enjoying it.

1. PVE dps: As concealment spec I draw agro constantly from HM bosses, commonly with a sniper and bounty hunter in the group. I need to meter my output and use countermeasures constantly to avoid death. 2. Getting away: Cloaking screen works wonders, even on HM-level mobs, champions, and bosses. If something goes wrong when figuring out a specific HM fight (like the proper method to hit HK47's screens so he doesn't get the uber "Slaughter Programs Loaded" buff). It keeps the repair bill down because everyone else dies getting chased to the zoneline while I cloak, hide in the corner, and wait.

What is the detail on the nerf / proposed nerf exactly?

Yea, it's bugged. Sometimes if you use cloaking screen in the middle of a PVE fight when solo, then decloak (even far far away from mobs) the suddenly see you and re-agro. This must be the same broken mechanic. Agro isn't always wiped with Cloaking Screen.

So if you queue as a group of four, does the system attempt to put you against another group that also queued with at least one group of four?

So if you queue as a group of four, does the system attempt to put you against another group that also queued with at least one group of four?

Ahh, that makes sense. So the visible countdown timer on the buff after you hit them is the armor debuff tracker? Still, I can't seem to keep out of CC after the fist three attacks when playing 50s with gear / experience. For now, I'll throw in the backstab and then lacerate until TA is gone or I'm cc'd.

Both Shiv and Hidden strike proc TA, plus if you have the lacerate addon specced, you get a bonus proc 50% of the time after each lacerate. I was experimenting with using Backstab later last night, and against well-geared and well-experienced players I found myself getting stunned, controlled, knocked back, or otherwise CC'd before I could execute Backstab much of the time. I'm 45, so maybe that will change, but for now I think I will revert back to Backstab after the first Shiv (before Lacerate).

So I'm given to understand the goal is to have two applications of Acid Blade with one use of it. Since it only works with HS and BS, the timing works out to: Acid Blade Hidden Strike * Acid blade DoT 1 Shiv Lacerate Lacerate Backstab * Acid blade DoT 2 etc. Correct? Thorne, since Acid Blade is a 15 sec buff (I think, I'll time it later), the second application in your example may be unnecessary.

Lvl 44 here. I've tried both 1. Acid Blade 2. Hidden Strike 3. Backstab 4. Lacerate 5. Shiv 6. Lacerate and the same 1. Acid Blade 2. Hidden Strike 3. Lacerate 4. Lacerate 5. Backstab 6. Shiv This issue for me is that I don't want to risk the chance of getting CC'd by friends (or even my target) before I hit with backstab. Even when successful, the 2nd routine didn't seem to do much better. Even so, how does that setup allow more Acid Blade ticks?