I honestly think the valor rewarded is too high in all regards however, I think the medals should be objective based (capping a node/planting bomb) etc.

I have a lvl 50 scoundrel and i'm half way through valor 59 to 60 in full champ gear. I only played scoundrel maybe a week before the "big nerf" happened because my main was a 50 seer. I definitely noticed a big difference between pre patch and post patch in my ability to drop opponents. However I'm not going to lie I enjoy the challenge most the times when I'm up against BM opponents with some better gear etc I will still destroy them if I play my class correctly according to the situation. Sometimes it does become overwhelmingly frustrating but it is what it is, I get bored with my seer because there are soo many terrible dps players out there that regardless of how much i heal they can't kill anything. Anyways, I feel for you guys that are struggling with the class and it's tough without gear i'm not going to lie but I just want to let you know it is still possible to be a great force if you play right. Now when I say that I mean you need to utilize your resources, surroundings and items to you're advantage. That means LOS, Relics/adrenals or stims, power ups, your tranq etc. If you slip up then yea your going to get rocked if your going in at a disadvantage, however if you practice enough you'll react to certain situations appropriately and come out on top. This class is tough to play so if you don't like a challenge then until they buff us roll a commando/merc or sage/sorc. I have taken nodes in civil war 1v2, just last night myself and another scoundrel dropped 3 imps 2v3+2 to capture a node and neither of us have BM gear. It's tough but just play smart and practice your combos + think outside the box.

idk what your talking about 75% of the time i'm top dps/kills with my scoundrel theres a select few who beat me out due to aoe dmg and they are usually BMs (i'm a champ). I have no issues killing ranged opponents.

lol when you guys feel like streaming your version of coordinated wzs then come talk but they are pretty coordinated imo i've smashed on BMs in champ gear it doesn't make you a great player it just makes you tougher to kill. However they are winning majority of their matches which is a result of tactics and communication.

lol honestly i think it's entertaining just listening to half the stuff said on here and murk putting away alcohol mixed with some music it makes my warzones go by faster.

So there are certain moments after KD I try and hit with back blast and it bugs itself ... and no matter where I'm at it wont find the right positioning even if I run in full circles around him while hes on the ground it will still tell me i'm not behind him . . . SUPER lame plz fix =\

So not sure what the deal is but the server population for republic took a nose dive tonight on my server -.- taking 15-20 mins to get in a wz match /sigh . . . anyone else having issues?

At level 50 in full champ, explain to me why my dmg is able to be reduced/mitigated to 1-2k crit hs/sf ? How am I expected to kill med/heavy armor when they have 17-25k HP in some extremes higher than that... Where's my armor pen? Oh ya it got nerfed too -_-

Lol yesterday was the first day I Ran Wz's against some geared guys and realized how weak our damage is after our opener this juggernaut had 27k health and my attacks were hitting him for under 1k average of 400-600 my opener this fool for like 1.5k ... Hit some powertechs with 18-19k HP and my damage was heavily mitigated there as well between 1-2k. Cool it's heavy armor I get it but I'm in full champ ... I'd have to hit the juggernaut roughly 25-30 times including bleeds to kill him and obviously even with pug and cool head I can't sustain an energy effort to touch this guy. I had to blow all of my cool downs to kill the power tech who was geared with cent mostly so while I'm pumping in crap damage to the power tech he's unloading more damage to me on weaker armor and weaker life pool I had to use dirty kick and flash multiple times and vanish and open on him again and heal etc but this guy didnt cc me at all. After one fight my guy had blown all cool downs and was energy starved and completely vulnerable. I know there's a lot of baddies saying our class is useless and it's not, but I feel like having full champ gear I shouldn't have to go all out to sustain energy and damage to kill someone with less gear. I don't like seeing my "burst" damage critting for 1-1.5k and then sustained damage of 4-600 for a primary dps class and spec heavy armor or not. Ops/scoundrel supposed to be a heavy dps spec, just give me back my freakin armor pen and a minor buff on my reg out of stealth attacks so I can at least feel like I'm hurting someone and not tickling them.

You're right people will log on just for the fun of it, but only for a short period. People are competitive they want to work to have the best of everything and stand out, they don't want to be another tally mark on the sheet. It took my scoundrel after hitting 50 all of 2-3 weeks to get almost all champ everything and some cent items, yea sure the first week kinda blows but again MMO players are all about incentives and if you take that away you take away reason for a large amount of people to play more than an hour to pvp. Why would you want to farm legacy points and valor if it did nothing for you?

So you think a level 50 should be able to fully deck himself out and make the highest tier pvp set as common as a bottle of water? What's the point of keeping people from stopping at 50 then and just rolling alts? Not only is there no incentive if you can do all this from 10-49 this will destroy progression. I dont want to look the same as some dude that just turned 50 a few hours ago, you can be competitive via skill and team work and earn the gear that way. If I step into a wz an everyone has BM gear thats retarded, I'm not even fully equipped but I don't want to be handed gear. I play this cause I'm competitive and I like the challenge of killing someone that's better equipped than myself, that's why despite all the scrubs complaining about ops/scoundrel nerfs i found it more fun.

Just quit and go repopulate a wow server please

Why do you think you should just automatically be thrown in line with people who have grinded with the 50s and earned respect and proved themselves when all your doing is grinding lowbies who most the time can't play their class or dont have their talents... Quit whining and get to 50 and prove yourself worthy of the gear first, I don't want to see fresh scrubs with BM gear they increased commendations already for you.

Seriously though I dont know wth all the "useless/gimped" talk is about... If you have **** gear and no expertise trying to take down a heavy armor toon with more than you then yea your damage is going to suck and that's the same across the board for all classes. The time I spent playing under geared only helped me, because now that I am Better geared I'm running into situations in ilum and wz's where those same tactics are allowing me to take down multiple people in one encounter. Yea I believe we need some fine tuning for our back blast/sucker punch or something but nothing major, get yourself some expertise and use more than 3 skills ... Gear does play a factor in the equation but dont expect to win if you can't figure out how and when to use more than 3-4 abilities.

Lol I like healing in wz's however I hate when I get grouped with idiotic dps or people that are bad at their class and can't kill no matter how long they live