yea operatives are infiltration shadows before the nerf, but add heals, immunity, dodge rolls on top of that. Was funny seeing my shadow wreck operatives in 6,7 secs(ahh miss those 3x 90k shadow strikes).Those were good times to kill opness with more opness, and operatives were like OUN NOU CLASS CAN KILL US NERF IT PWEASE NAU. But some dev who main operatives didnt like that so they nerf it. But funny to see ppl are defending it.

I am sorry but class with stealth , 2 stuns, aoe blind, 2 dodge rolls, reflect, heals + regen should not exist in pvp. Strip their heals, take away stun, put dodge roll on 20 sec cd and then things will be interesting. And yes I play smuggler, kinda bored killing everything in 1v1. But there are other problems except that god mode class: Strip away all heals from dps classes (yes sorcs I am pointing out to you and mercs) thats why you have heal classes and companions to heal you in pve. Kill tank dmg by 50% in pvp. Immortal juggs/guardians are too much in pvp. Buff some low represented classes: serenity, combat sent, etc... In b4 somebody cries but operatives are bad in ranked...dude...git good.

I am for operatives stay the same if they wish, as a Sentinel main this spec i want to have same heals like them, being the only class with no self heals really sucks (i dont count dot spec heals cause it sucks). I want instant 150k heal with 15 sec cd. Or I want to actually go out of combat using Force camouflage instead of being unable to regen for 2 mins cause stuck into combat state. As for snave well hes a troll player , well if i was operative main i would also troll ppl with "l2p" memes and use root, use their disadvantages, dont attack on reflect, bla bla same ******** Remember few months ago when shadows had 3x insta crit backstab(they were broken AF and everyone abused them), snave was my ***** cause he was non stop spamming me with messages why am i attacking and ganking him all over the warzone see snave, you only need 1 same broken class to kick your **** operative but unfortunately it was nerfed and now unussable anymore so you can defend your broken **** class cause its solo best 1v1 now

ive got 6x hutballs, 5x civil wars in a row....EA programers suck, really.

Well you are right, from 1 min of fight i am cced like 50 sec. Theres 10 sec of fight that i can do some dps. But what Ive seen Pacify and Lance does not do anything from the tooltips. 90% minus accuracy and i am getting dmged all the times (they are not immune, and from what ive seen it only works on sentinels and guardians) , Lance using on operatives and everything does not do anything, they can dodge roll and escape everything.... whats the point of those 2 skills which most of the times doesent do anything. Ok pacify for conc/fury does good thing giving cc imunity, but on carnage/combat is garbage. .... carnage/combatneed some big dmg boost burst like PT have to be actually super fun... I am sick of Concentration....do something about combat/carnage!

Well hes right, force camouflage is useless, use it and then wait 2 mins for combat to wear off. Simply garbage ability. While other classes have active and passive heals this class has none. DMG should be buffed by 50% so at least ppl would fear mara/sent. Saddly now its the time for merc, pt/vg, and op/smug.

Haha no furious rewards, figures xD nobody will buy swashbucklers xD

I wish this was true, but maras/sentinel have same problem like shadow/assassin, using combat stealth does not remove combat, you just need to run away and wait 2 minutes, yes 2 minutes for combat to wear off then heal for 20 secs while your teammates are already dead. Thats why operatives are god mode now, they have passive and active heals plus combat stealth. Most broken class rn. So rerol to operatives and own everything.

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Operatives have everything, its time for big nerf like sins got with maul crap spam, those of you who defend it personally abuse it in pvp, hey I was also abusing maul spam crap cause it was fun watching ppl die in global and I defended it. Now I dont even play it cause it is garbage now and not fun anymore.

Thats right, their heal need to be removed or nerfed to the ground. Having 5M dmg and 3M heals in warzones is just not normal. This cancer need to be brought down to reasonable numbers, decrease their heal capability by 150% , increase energy cost of heals by 150%. Stealth class with heals half of their dmg, lol.

hatred/serenity is getting nerfed hard with death knell nerf, murderous is pretty **** for a 6 sec 100% crit, if it were 9-10 sec it would be good. Saddly hatred/serenity is outdated.

Revelation has better burst capabilities, when you attack right from stealth your dots can tick 10k each but 6 sec 100% crit is just low, 8 or 9 sec would be good. And yes I agree for 6 sec if yo ucan use it with stride without stealth, that would be good change.

LEL you mention hatred...hatred is like 2 levels behind infil/dec in terms of damage. Plus nerfing of death knell set nerfs our execute, biggest hit ability. removing 3x 50-60k dmg and giving serenity/leeching crit for 20k is a pretty big nerf to me. Thats why i changed set to murd. revelation cause this nerf sucks.

buff murderous revelation set when you nerfing death knell for hatred/serenity!