T7-01 was never in KoTOR, that was T3-M4

lol nice

testing to see if an Enjin sig generator worked or not

4. You forget that Obi only ever fought defensively. who knows how good he is when he's being aggressive? And even if it was a gamble, which I wouldn't think so because he had a point about having the high ground, it worked and Anakin was just too stubborn not to jump like an idiot Vader in the suit certainly was not in his prime, he was an old man with no arms or legs of his own a bulky suit with terrible visibility

1. Vader took 4 seconds from him, where as Luke took like four bursts of it and then a continuous stream, he was just fine afterwards. And if you insist on saying that a wrinkly grey prune was the "most powerful Sith Lord ever", then being thrown over a safety rail is a pretty pathetic way to be brought down. I still say that he wasn't, lightning was the only Dark Side trick we ever see him use. Show me grip. Show me Dark clones. Show me something different if he's so strong in the Dark Side... And Vader was still brought down over and over and over again, how doesn't really matter. The electric poles were just for in game flare, besides, you try moving at all to get to your knees with that much voltage in your body. 2. Doesn't change the fact that his fighting style stayed the same. No way he was disinterested in the person who brought him within an inch of his life twice. And we all know he was conflicted about fighting Luke, that doesn't change the fact that he's gonna defend himslef. 3. You forgot that they were losing? they didn't find a real opening to be of any assistance until AFTER Revan defeated Bastila and had her reverse the Battle Meditation. 4. Old Republic Jedi survived three consecutive wars and then beat back the Sith in the current war in the game. The ones in the Prequels didn't have that kind of experience and only had to fight a single war which consisted of mostly droids, Dooku and Ventress, and when it came down to it, none of them were prepared to fight a real Sith Warrior. You have those as your examples, I'm pretty sure they're all dead now, anyway, aside from Luke. We've got Bastila, Revan, the Exile, Satele, Jolee Bindo, Malak (before he fell with Revan) and who knows, we might even count Knight and Consular characters in TOR to add to that list.

Dunno what "word" of Kreia's you think I'm going on, cuz I'm sure as hell wasn't thinking about her when I wrote the comment. And this entire thread so far has been based around info from KoTOR and TFU, so there's really no use complaining about it now

1. "tweaked his suit to resist force lightning" my ***! he had four, countem, FOUR seconds of INDIRECT contact with Palpatine's lightning which, I must argue, is clearly NOT "the strongest ever". have you seen the lightning that inquisitors can throw out in TOR? And that four seconds shut down his cooling systems and life support. 2. That means nothing, it's just the way he fights. notice how it never changes even when he takes his beating from Luke, he still has a disinterested air about him. 3. Great, he had an entire legion, Revan had two buddies backing him up in a place designed to pump out and entire army (Rakata designed, no less) all the while having Bastila's Battle Meditation used against them. 4. That's all well and good, but I have two things to say. First, that was before he had his other hand cut off along with his legs and was put in a bionic body with a big mask and cape which probably restricts movement quite a bit. Second, if Vader could take all those guys in the temple out, so can Obi-Wan who, if I'm not mistaken, put Anakin in his place. On top of all of that, Old Republic Jedi were stronger, Period. You've got the Mandalorian Wars, the Jedi Civil War AND the Jedi vs. Sith War that's going on in the game. they bred fighters back then because of all the wars they had to fight in. The Prequels had "peace keepers" who then fought a war against droids and the occasional Dark Force User. I'm sensing a supreme difference in strength and combat expertise. Now, all that aside, look at Ben Kenobi. he's an old guy, right? not exactly in his prime? well neither is Vader, under all the burn scarring and mechanics, he's an old man who's not as fast as he used to be. now put him against a more experienced, younger opponent who still has all his limbs attached.

You're kidding me with this, right? Revan would tear Vader and Palpatine to shreds without breaking a sweat. Jedi and Sith both drastically declined in strength after the Old Republic era. nobody in Republic Classic could hold a candle to an iconic character of the Old Republic

It totally pisses me off that Lucas put a "ban" on wookiee force users. First off, anyone who wants to play a wookiee obviously couldn't care less about the speech thing. Second, give me one good reason that romance options would be tricky, (saying "it's gross" or "it's creepy" is not a reason) nobody's making you do it, don't spoil it for everyone else, it'd be just like any other human-to-alien romance in the game. The whole "wookiee Jedi is OOC" argument is completely void; Tyvokka was a wookiee on the High Council before he died and had Plo Koon take his place, and then we had Lowbacca during New Jedi Order. If you're worried about an armor/clothing issue like in SWG, all they gotta do is give wookiees a different set of armor skins. Somebody needs to bug Lucas Arts about this until they give in or something...

well nobody's making you play one. who cares if they're an "ear sore"? that's the weakest argument I've ever heard and hearing a wookiee VO for your toon is no different than talking to to Bowdaar or that general on Ilum. you got a problem with playing it? Then don't. problem solved. Quit ************

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My life would be complete if I could be my SWG wookiee Jedi. don't flame on this because all arguments against are void. 1) If you're worried about romance options for wookiees, come one people, its BioWare- if you can go to a brothel in Dragon Age and get "surprised" with a pig, is it that far of a stretch for humans and wookiees? Not to mentions the whole "furry" craze I've been noticing. 2) If you're worried about about the voice over, the biggest argument I've seen so far, that's so lame. I don't really care about listening to Shyriiwook. Besides, Old Republic tech just might have a special "adapter" for nonhuman vocal chords (plus the VIP vendor is Ithorian and they gave him a generic vendor voice). 3) If you're one of those people that think a wookiee Jedi isn't possible or is just out of character; Tyvokka and Lowbacca. Case closed. Also, have you never heard of a wookiee shaman? wooks are the tribal and spiritual type, so it's not that hard to believe. If anyone has any other arguments, I'd be happy to shoot them down for you