Most of the people that cared about the class/spec wrote guides etc left the game ages ago. Only people left are either playing fury or just swapped to something else.

You fault pvp'ers and raiders for this? Most of them I know dont like this update either mate, if anything the ability removal was done for the casuals that complained they had too many abilities and it was confusing.

I see the apologists goal posting has already moved to the "if the game shuts down is gonna be the fault or the negative nancies" and not because Bioware and EA have the minimal viable product approach with swtor now. Either way it's always impressive to see the old stages of grief happen in real time.

You type this as some kind of gotcha but this has always been the case in this game, I have never queued for gf ops and I have been playing since 2013. Ops have always been formed either via guild runs or fleet pugs, this is not a new thing. And if I say this mara and ops thing is because of hm/nim progression was very much alive and kicking back then not because I wanna do sm with pugs.

Not only cc, intimidating roar used by tanks was where the 15 per cent reduction on damage done was (were the mobs affected by the controlling effect or not), meaning it was a defensive cooldown for the entire team and worked on raid bosses. The fact that this was made a choice for tanks as well as dps specs tells me whoever did these changes doesnt even play the class and just took a hatchet to anything that had the word cc in it without knowing the intricacies of the classes and specs.

2.8, when all the mara specs were fun to play and oricon ops were fresh content would be grand.

What's with this obsession with removing things? You know u can uncheck fp's or could before this garbage update? I did and I still got a lot of pops for other fp's. Same thing with abilities, all this supposed people that had "too many abilities" could just not put them on their bars, why should I be punished with a dumber class just because others dont even wanna learn how to play? Best part is the people complaining about abilitites didnt even do the content that requires them, but now I am forced to fiddle around with menus and **** just cos people were to lazy to just not put said abilities in their bars. "Play your way" my backside.

Yes I know that I was on the pts the week it closed, that still doesnt invalidate my point.

If I had to guess it was to not repeat what happened december 2014 when there was a big bug that couldnt be patched due to the devs being on holyday break. Imagine they dropped this patch and then it had to be as is on live for like a month without fixing anything.

This bug was still present in the latest PTS build 3 weeks ago, I'm not really sure they have a QA team anymore, maybe they just rely on pts people to bugtest for them or something, wouldn't surprise me at this point given the state of the update that made it live.

This seems to be 7.0 motto at this point.

The other 5 per cent were the "wait and see" crowd that are now unsurprisingly nowhere to be found.

Yes a lot of cc removed specially for warrior class, people have been giving negative feedback on pts forum about this for months but Bioware knows best TM and went ahead with it. Happy 10 year anniversary!

I can say that i started leveling a guardian (jugg class) from scratch and the gear you get at creation and the drops on Tython seem to be the same as in live can't say about rest of leveling since I didnt get past starter planet and with the way they changed how you acquire abilities seems like it will be incredibly boring until you get to level 30.

xD Post of the month right here.