Green space milk

You guys remember you have an Xpac due out in a few days right? You might want to let some more people know, just a suggestion.

Because my topic is pointing out the mistake SWG made in changing their class makeup and combat styles. Not exactly sure why that's so hard for you to accept or grasp.

I'm simply bringing up a monumental mistake made in a previous Star Wars mmo that a lot of players today might not know of. Broad sweeping class changes are a slippery slope that can outright ruin a game. I've never said Bioware are doing this to the extent of SWG's mess. They are however making big changes to the game with this xpac and I'm putting forward my opinion, and guess what champ, I'm allowed to do that.

Except I never said that.

Which is why history is such an important thing and the original reason for this post. Learn from previous mistakes. CU / NGE was a mistake, plain and simple.

CU/NGE did kill SWG, if you think otherwise you didn't play the game previous to the implementation of it. I have played PTS for the new patch and have spent a long time playing a Guardian tank in SWTOR, so I have a fair idea on what the current changes are to the class. Which is why I have brought up SWG as example, merely pointing out if you make broad sweeping changes to the way people play their characters you can severely damage your player base. At no point have I said this current direction is going the same way SOE did with SWG. Again pointing out some history, not sure why you're getting so personally offended by it.

Hmm I don't remember saying anything about this being the end of the game, or that it was anything like CU/NGE. I'm merely pointing out some history. Maybe take a chill pill lads.

Not wanting to sound the doomer alarm, but I just want to remind/inform everyone about another certain star wars game that decided to do a complete overhaul of the combat / classes to the live game. Star Wars Galaxies had been running along well for 2 years before they decided to "Streamline" the combat system and introduced the *Combat Upgrade to the game, followed closely behind by the *New Game Experience. Both of which weren't ever really requested by the player base and completely blind sided a lot of subscribers. Long story short, it killed SWG. I remember it took less than 2 billing cycles for our guild to reduce from over 100 active players to less than 10 with the common theme that the dev team had killed their character. The game was a ghost town in less than 6 months. Just saying...

Open space GSF, make it happen. Thanks

So you're saying a lvl 65 player such as myself who has full Warzone gear should be able to 1-2 shot a player in openworld just because they have chosen to do the planetary content, rather than lvl to 65 in WZs? I've spent the last week running around Nar, Tat, Cor, Hoth etc trying to help people out who are getting ganked over and over by the new griefing trolls who have a new line of soft targets to pick on. It's seriously a joke when you see people being camped out of the game because of a Warzone stat. Warzones have nothing to do with Open world PVP.....

You are correct. And WZs have absolutely nothing to do with Open World.

you guys are missing the point. It's not about trying to encourage people into world pvp. They are already on a pvp server so they expect it. It's trying to keep people interested in the game. Where is the information for the PVP servers that states to a new player interested in the game that they're going to be obliterated in Open PVP because some griefer who spends 90% of their time lining up for WZs is going to camp them into the ground. WZ pvp stats belong in WZs, it's that bloody simple.

There are plenty of new players rolling on PVP servers thinking they are going to be able to actively engage in Open PVP. I for one wan't to keep the new influx of players in the game. More players = more money = more content. Just because you can throw out a "it's their problem rolling on a PVP server L2P" comment, doesn't address what has been a major problem with PVP in the game since the beginning. WZ PVP gear should have no place in World PVP, period.