Congratulations to both of you, glad to see the initiative taken to ensure you are collaborating where needed the fact this AC now has both a PvE and a PvP rep both of which are happy with the class on a whole but understand the weak points is promising indeed especially leading up to 2.4 (from a PvP perspective at least) Will put together my thoughts closer to the date and look forward to seeing constructive feedback from the community that doesn't revolve around blind nerf/buff cries but actually offers suggestions for improvement and balancing related specifically to our class.

i must be crazy since i use WW consistently in games: 1) Big fight at a node, catching a runner with WW if I'm not under pressure is easy, catching when with MA active is even easier. 2) 2 second cast WW instantly broke by somebody? bonus when you think about it, if you can land it and force the breaker then you're in a stronger situation later in a fight. 3) long cast time - yeah i agree on this it does kind of suck, but making it instant would be incredible strong since you could destroy bads all day with it, CC cap nodes so much easier and force breaks almost on demand with a coordinated burst switch. Some changes to WW would be nice but making it instant even if talented for instant is a little too far in the wrong direction in my opinion

It was blatantly obvious that the 2k remark came from a Ranked PvP perspective, if you couldn't work that out from the fact the discussion is Majorly PvP orientated and the rest of the post went on to talk about PvP. Seriously - Nibbon is your PvE rep that is blatantly obvious from the other poll, so what if you need to go to the sage thread to post comments for him. (were not still in the days of OMG nerf sorcs but Sages are ok are we? used to crack me up on release lol) At the end of the day the people majorly content and competing with Sorc will rarely post because every time a good player states its a game play issue the QQers jump on board and tear them to pieces, that alone is a major reason im backing Psi for Sorc rep from a PvP perspective because then it gives us a voice higher up the chain in PvP instead of some whiny skill ;lacking fool, its quite literally that simple.

You pretty much agree with the points i stated, perhaps i could have done a better job of putting them across. I'm exhausted from being up early but will clarify what i meant on a few points later. On a side note its no surprise I'm leveling a sent alongside my Sorc for 2.4 although I'm adamant that Sorcs will perform well in 2.4 if in the right comp

I'm a long way off being able to give my opinion on a geared 55 perspective however i have to agree with allot of what Psi has to say, i struggled to decide on what i would play when i came back to SWTOR in prep for 2.4 but after countless hours and re-learning the Sorc/Sage class i decided that despite the crap on the forums i had little to none of the common place issues people were stating. My honest opinion is that allot of the problems i read about day to day ont he forums can be broken down into a few simple categories: 1) Genuine Concern for the classes lacking aspects, neither Psi or myself will claim blissful ignorance about the class, Sorcs are far from in a great spot right now but they are also far from being in a bad place. We can bring unrivaled utility if played well and the emphasis is on PLAYED WELL 2) Which brings me to the second point LACK OF BASIC MECHANICAL PLAY - the Sorc/Sage player base as a whole lacks basic mechanical skills i wont go into depth on this because people will not listen its that simple but guys you lack basic mechanics even i do and so does Psi we all mess up the key is limiting factors that hinder your play. 3) Outright refusal to believe its a lack of skill - this goes beyond mechanics and into people not having gear, not being at end game, being focus fired etc etc people cry and moan because they outright refuse to believe that they could have done anything different or that in the situation there simply was no way out (yes it happens death is unavoidable at times). TLDR: Psi doesn't see faults unless there genuinely are faults, at least from what I've seen/read so far which is why he gets my vote

Hoping for tomorrow at least to get the 5 days i had initially paid the £5 pre order fee hoping to get but tonight would have been awesome shame i redeemed on 24th of Nov but hey ho my matews arent in until release or even january and those of the team who are already in are busy writing content for the site and only played a few hours yesterday, so not too bothered

I'm in breakingf out the Vodka lets get this started! i have a feeling that redeeming code in Novembeer will mean i need more vodka!!!!