I find it hilarious that this thread has gone on this long. Don't bother trying to debate the OP. Its almost pointless. If you look at all his posts its always how OP guard is or how OP heals are...... Or both. He will never understand the mechanics of the classes. You will never be 100% successful in this game. If you, the OP, are in a total random pug group chances are if the tank and healer are good you won't beat them.