1.) Devs that care about their subscriber base/fans 2.) Actual Subscriber Incentives, not monthly Cartel Coins. Something exclusive to subs. 3.) Content and promises that were made before Free to play.

10% towards..... MORE CARTEL PACKS!

Hey... a Wal-Mart associate with an actual brain.

Hopefully I can come back and enjoy this game once more. Didn't mean to double post, was supposed to edit my previous one.

You misunderstand, I scheduled off a few weeks ahead of time for vacation. I didn't just call out of work. GG. I guess that's my fault for not really explaining. No interest to excite anyone, just express my opinion. The fact the thread has 8 pages was beyond what I'd thought it be. I expected it to have 2-3 posts, and it fall into the darkness of the forums.

Just before anyone gets to my topic and spams "Can I have your stuff?" this is my honest opinion on where this game is going. These are my big thoughts on SWTOR and why In my opinion, doesn't provide for a lot of people. I do warn you its a long video of expressing my opinion. I even throw out some awesome things I like about Wildstar. Even have a conversation with my 2 year old daughter. And..... guild chat here and there. But I promise its mostly about SWTOR. Here's the Highlight you can view if you feel like hearing my opinion. Its about 29 minutes long if you can dread the long talking. http://www.twitch.tv/darkened_fire/c/2592915 Honestly I've had some wonderful times in SWTOR and loved every minute of it, but day by day I seem to lose my interest in this game. I've been here since day one and express it in my video of my disinterest in the past previous months. I do want to thank Bioware for helping me find some great people in the game to hang out. From SWTOR we finally disbanded our SWTOR division and branched out to new games. I thank Bioware for that.. we are now a community instead of a SWTOR Raiding Group. But, I hope this game improves in the next few months or a year so so I can come back. Hopefully Bioware can hear my opinion and find out why a good base of people are leaving. I know out of 500k people that I'm not the only person who feels this way. Till then, good bye everyone! Thank you for reading. I do really appreciate if someone actually watches my video. Goodbye SWTOR and to the adventures ahead!

Sorry this isn't going to happen. It takes Bioware approximately 6-months to release new content. Scum and Villiany Release Date: April 9, 2013 New Content Release Date: October 1, 2013 You get my point.

Scum and Villiany + Rise of the Hutt Cartel = April 9, 2013 New content = October 1, 2013 April 9, 2013 - October 1, 2013 = 6 months of grinding same old boring content. Sorry Bioware, but you wont be seeing me after my 30 days are up. Nightmare difficulty isn't "new" content. You can argue as much as you'd like but, its just something Bioware wants you to think is content so you'll stay longer in this lifeless game. Same bosses, same trash, just upgraded HP and one or two new mechanics which is not content. Character Customization isn't "new" content either, its already in the game when you first create your character but if you want to redesign your appearance better have some real $. Cartel Packs aren't "new" content either, charging us for 10 cc for titles or fireworks to celebrate events is STUPID.

Quite amusing how people don't have the brains to even read the point I'm getting at. I'm not saying the game doesn't have content. I'm stating that its a very shady business model because YOU HAVE TO PAY for the expansion, Even as a subscriber you can't do any of the new content that is released freely unless and ONLY AFTER you buy the expansion. On top of the money I spent on the Collectors Edition, subscribed since day 1, and spent a small margin of money on the Cartel Market, why should Bioware be inclined to release content that completely requires a 10$-20$ purchase? It'd be one thing if you could still Level to 55 and do operations if your not interested in the expansion, but the sole fact that its required is ridiculous. If Bioware really wanted to make things alright, Subs irregardless if they purchased the expansion should be able to Level to 55.

A challenge? When did a "Challenge" become "content" Same mobs and same trash. The only new content your getting is fancy new animated armor, and slightly modified boss fights. A steal it might be, but still shady business model. Subs aren't getting unlocked access to the game if you think of it the way I'm trying to explain. You have Limited Access even as a sub until you buy the expansion.

No, I paid for the expansion, I don't think its right that a Sub that PAYS EVERY MONTH, would be required to buy the expansion to be able to get this "Free" content they release. If your paying for a subscription, your supposed to get "Unlocked Access" to everything like Operations/FPs/PVP and etc, but in reality you can't unless you buy the expansion. Its still very shady.

Yes, but how much content do you get out of WoW expansions? I got 2-3 levels out of the Makeb Storyline... you call that content? Do you call Nightmare Mode of an operation we've been grinding for months content? Please explain to me how Biowares price should even be close to 20$.. If I'm a subscriber and I don't buy the expansion, what "New" content would I be receiving just out of curiosity. I FYI do have the expansion, just making a hypothetical situation. Can't change my characters appearance, that costs money Can't play new operations, because I'm required to buy an expansion Can't play on my server because everyone transferred out, so now I have to to enjoy the game. Just a few examples of this crappy marketing.

Whether you like it or not, anything after Level 50 should be considered paid content, not "Free" as Bioware will tell us. Heres an explanation on how this shady business model works. They release content that is Level 55 Required like the new Operations. This forces every person that has intention to do ANY kind of end game to buy the expansion. So guess what? All those new Level 55 operations that are "Free"? Too bad, you HAVE to buy the expansion first. Thats 10-20$ PER PERSON that intends to continue to end-game. Just like server transfers, delay them to the brink of where your subs are fed up, or their servers are dead like Oceanic/APAC and basically have everyone who doesn't want to stay on that dead server or even play the game to transfer with them. Most players leave dead server, players who are left on dead server have to transfer too to even play the game. Its a very crappy business model, but outside the Subscriber Fee we pay monthly you have to look at the other fees they might try to force out of us later down the road.

Its called Paid Content and a very shady business model. They release content that is Level 55 Required like the new Operations. This forces every person that has intention to do ANY kind of end game to buy the expansion. Touche Bioware... but I know what your up to.

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