If i knew who you where id buy you a drink, and your game... Good to see people like you exists.

**face hits palm** Compared to TOR your customization options are light years broader. What alot of people dont realise with sPvP vids is, you all get a specific looking set of armor colored to your team. In PvE and WvW your visual uniqueness is HUGE... unlike TOR, which reminds me more of EQ1 where you pick a premade face and every robe or piece of armor is identical to the last.

The Op is comparing a GW2 guardian to a mara... a heavy armor using support orientated (yes its not really support but it synergies well with the support role) to a medium wearing heavy dps class like the mara? Simply because they both make bubbles? And the Guardians health DID go down on a regular basis... i know mine died enough pretty quickly in stress tests. Whats the purpose of this thread again?

There is nill RP on Gav Daragon (But some guilds have a rare small event once in a blue moon... last one I went to was a good 4 months back), I started out there on day 1 simply because I tend to go to RP servers given their civility tends to be better. Id say the vast majority of the GD would want or be positive towards a merge. Although might not go down with some of the hard core raiders, but even they are basically running on empty (most of us have alts to fill raid spots, hell my old guild I was in was regularly gearing up Alts for days when tanks and healers wherent online, and that was months ago) its like some wraped incestuous relationship half the time. Oh and to have actual back to back wz pops again during the day like the first month... and best of all, No more Sunguard in every damn match! actual PvP variety of opponents. Unfortunately i wont be around to see it, but it would revitalize GD big time and make a big improvement on the communities (after playing a little on Droogas pleasure Barge going back to GD and seeing 20 on fleet around peek or using the GTN was eye opening and very depressing). Id happily loose character/legacy names to see it happen.

Its odd finding this, since I read this after noon something I hadn't really thought of. The actual cost for running and maintaining servers in things like MMO's is more or less none existence relatively speaking, im talking like under 10k a year. Which begs the question... WHAT does the sub fee actually get used for? Content Development?, on a game like TOR we sure havent got out moneys worth thats for sure and it kinda makes me feel ripped off. Someones getting a HUGE amount of cash once all the wages/bills are paid... even with the lowish sub numbers in TOR. Definitely not money well spent for sitting around on fleet for large stretches of time or repeating the same old same old over and over every week. I dont like F2P, but there is no reason for us to pay a sub or at least a sub at the price its currently at, at all.

The Oceanic servers need it badly, on my server we end up fighting the same TS premade in fully modded WH Imp top team every couple night in normal WZ's. Pugs get stomped a few times, que's stop for an hour or so... rince repeat, might get a few balanced matchs against any normal imps that que up but usually which ever side gets stomped twice first stops queing if they think its just gonna be steam rolling. Ranked wz's are pretty much a rare occuance unless its organised between teams. And because of the population theres only ever enough for 1 maybe 2 match ups in the 50's at a time. So when it starts to pop you can pretty much know immediately who your gonna be playing against all night. With out X server, its slowly killing PvP for us and its just dribbling along. But im sure cross server ques options will be coming to a Cash Shop near you!.. doesn't bother me im gone in under 24 hours. Personally think they've conveniently forgotten it, ie if no one asks about it we'll keep it on the back burner till its dead and well forgotten.

Some what ironic statement there... Light Sabers, Personal Shield generators, sorcs throwing lightning bolts all around... Mirialans(sp) for green orcs, jk. GW2 has rifles and pistols so cant say that guns are uniquely swtor. SW isnt sci-fi, its sci fantasy and as such its borderline high fantasy... good lord its got Knights and Sages in robes

What?, with the recent stress tests where they roll out hot fixes and patch things in as you play or forcing a quick client reset... heck yesterday All 'leap' abilities killed the character who used one when you arrived at your target ... it was hot fixed and patched in within an hour or so. Now if that was TOR, you'd have to wait a few days, or have a 4 hour downtime to get it all fixed... and then you'd find something else got broken in the intervening period. Now if TOR had and used its PTS like a PTS is supposed to be used... GW2 is surprisingly NOT buggy, and it hasnt even launched yet. TOR STILL has bugs in it that cropped up months back and some that have never been addressed at all.

I can agree with that observation, its a pitty, although Im staying very optimistic (granted I was like that with this game). Im and old DaoCer so i have fairly specific desires and requirments, which colors my views on such things greatly (and which GW2 delivers perfectly)... Warhammer had potential but failed to reach it, and ended up trying to pander to the new-geners that flocked in from WoW only to stick there pre conceived ideas on mass onto the game which the devs blindly went along with. Thankfully, GW2 has that sort of ESport included (and it is rather fun) so hopefully there wont be a large ammount of cross contamination between the two. I would play swtor F2P... ONLY if what I earned and can play now wasnt locked from me, which unfortunately, they are... ive payed for it, earned it, as such I should have some benefit from that fact, not suddenly having a large portion of it taken away as some sort of punishment for my choices... and yes, id 1 up purchase new raids to continue with my guild or new WZ's when they come out... but only if I can F2P with what I currently have. WHich isnt gonna happen, and I dont like that one bit.

Legacy after lvl 25 has no use, and valor... whats it good for? Valors capped at your Level pre 50, and for the most part all you have to do its win 5 or so wz's a level and you can keep yourself at cap all the way to 50. Nice idea, but it wouldnt rejuvante anything in my opinion .... now double WZ/BH coms weekends or 1 week every month that makes all OP's drop BH instead of Columi coms (with double BH com drops from EC) might do so... or a weekend where all regular FP's done through the GF give say 5 columi coms, similar to how HM FP GF does now, might.

Never said it was, I just find it a might sight better than what ive been paying to play the last 5 months. Id happily pay for TOR and play GW2... but everything thats happening at the mo with TOR just puts payed to that idea Also anyone playing GW2 and not having a primary interest in PvP might be disappointed... it is after all PvP game first and a PvE game second. Kinda like saying with EvE what if you dont want to play a Null Space Mega Corporation,Economic, Criminal Empire simulator... we'll yeah, your destined for disappointment (As was I when I just had to farm lvl 4 missions in my caldari fleet com BS hour after hour to make isk for my GTC's) Knew i shouldn't have used the words fan boy (hate that word my self)... aint and never will be 'fanboi', but I am very excited through what experience of GW2 ive had so far (4 stress test). Compared to TORs current endgame after the last 8 months or so, its got an awe full lot more to do from the get go. Dont get me wrong, I kinda like TOR, its got aspects to it that are endearing despite its flaws... its just poked me and others a few to many times in the ribs the last month or so. As to the OP, i wouldnt trust a single word from the mouth of any one from EA's upper teir... im a man of principal, fair play and the like, even if I dont like the person im defending sometimes and everything ive seen them do and say over the decades disgusts me, and their just getting worse (for a small while they seemed to have learned their lesson and improved... didnt last long)... Bioware being assimilated into EA was my last 'benefit of the doubt', there wont be another.

Im already gone, so this Makeb issue regardless of how it works out wont effect me but given how the forums are currently this particular video is rather apt. Jimquisition, Why Boycotts Fail Where Whining Tantrums Win While I agree with the guy, I personally think EA/Activision Bioware/Blizzard have become monsters in the guppy pool and the sooner they go belly up the better for the entire industry (Hey I loved Bioware and feel for its employees, Pre EA acquisition I bought alot of their stuff and it was heaven... but now its like a family dog you own who becomes dangerous, you just have to let them go). At least it appears whining has made SOME minor changes recently, or at least they've started caking their pants a little and pulling their thumbs out. Still think a mass boycott is needed, and given the way their going... it'll happen naturally. The industry needs a house clean, and its refreshing to see the majority wont stand for immoral or just dubious business practices... regardless of how legal or acceptable it might be in a capitalist system. Ps:- If there are any EA apologists or people who want to see a little more of EA, take a look at Jimquisitions other few vid rants about EA, might open your eyes. Dont have to agree with him, but might clear up why alot of us have no real hope or trust for this game with EA as its task master. yeah i bought the game, but hey i thought Bioware... must have some clout in this partnership so its all good. I was an optimist

Not sure if im seeing things (might be the fact I was in the GW2 stress test this morning and it runs a little poorly for me so it scewed my perspective), but I typically run Swtor on every thing Low, bar Shaders and Texture Atlas on High. No Bloom, Anti-Aliasing, shadows etc. Well I was running around today on fleet and thought to myself after seeing something, Wonder what that looks like with every thing turned on High. so I ramped up textures to high, turned on bloom and hit apply. Hmm I said to myself, odd feels alot smoother. I pop up the fps and notice its running a good 10+ and in some places 20+ fps faster than it used to under the same settings. I bump up shadows and get the old fps, although it was slightly more improved over before (which I go back to disabling shadows)... So did they do some major optimizing this patch?, since bloom seems to have a huge reduction in impact for me now, and even high textures doesn't seem to tax me like it used to (even though I still have odd low res mip mapping on things like neon signs that take ages to update to high rez as i get closer to them, some times they never display the right res no matter HOW close i get to them). So has anyone else found their FPS alot better with high settings compared to a day ago?.. If like me you have a old machine, give it a go, might be surprised. And as a note, i run with an old 512 meg HD3870 and a 2.4 ghz Core 2 Duo. or is it all subjective?... Although I can honestly say the fps numbers ARE far higher than in the past with higher settings, hell i can even PvP with them and its as playable as it was with low settings, where before it wasnt playable at all if boom was on.

They did, but there short term contracts are all up, their just in between waiting on the new batch to arrive in the mail from india unfortunately for us this lull in talent falls around the new current deployment of super fast content updates so Bob from the coding team was put in charge of new teir armor design, he's no modeler but hes a fine hand at PS... I kid, or do i?... at leat Bob gets to do something before his contract also expires. So there is positives!

Ive seen people say this, but I personally think it'll run differently. I like TOR's pvp, even though its damn repetitive, it does have a draw factor to it and its pacing is good, and i even like raiding (havent done EC and wouldnt mind giving it a go, done all the other HM ops)... thing is, ive played the last 3 GW2 stress tests and after each one and especially the last one they had just yesterday (even though I got to play all of 1 hour out of the 4 on offer) Ive logged in only for about 10 minutes in SWTOR since yesterday morning and done basically nothing, and every time I think of popping into SWTOR I just think.. 'meh, why bother?", hell cant even be bothered with the event (What a disaster that is). And you have to realize GW2 runs kinda poorly on my machine compared to TOR, so if a total of 5 sporadic hours over the coarse of 2 weeks playing PvE and PvP in a beta engine GW2 can make me shrug and say, why bother logging into SWTOR at all for the last week and a half my accounts got left, I can say those who are gonna play both WILL eventually drop their TOR sub and just give up on it, sooner rather than latter... Unless theres actually something of worth coming in TOR, unfortunately.... it seems to little, to late, and far to spread out. And taking every thing that could have been a single content patch and splitting it up to seem like regular content smacks of audacity in the same vein as first Day DLC (Sure its not charged, but still is a cheap cheap tactic on their part).