Update: We have filled our Healer spot, and after having a full group up and running we are 6/6 Dxun HM. From a recruiting standpoint, while we have a full group up and running, we are always on the look out for good players, particularly DPS at this stage. Our main raid schedule is now locked in at Tuesday and Thursday at 9EST-12EST

What's a progression thread without salt and rustled jimmies

Having arguments about progression for a raid called "Nature of Progress" is high class meme material

As someone who was heavily involved in feedback to the devs on that fight both on PTS and Live, the devs were warned *multiple times* that the way the mechanic could be ignored by hydraulics combined with the aberration spawn timing and the hydraulics cooldown duration meant that teams would *only* bring in 8 Bounty Hunters. They were told this explicitly on PTS. They were told this explicitly on live. Devs were sent links to kill videos with 8 Bounty Hunters. So while I agree with the idea of a post Red Venom change let's see who clears it deal... I think it should be pointed out that the devs were given ample time to change it and it took until there were multiple guild kills on live to make the change. TLDR: I am interested to know how long the devs have been aware of this issue for Apex. If the community sees that all top guilds doing this until the fix is fine, then that's good enough for me. FC got World First, nothing changes that. I would assume that FC would be interested in also getting the first kill post-change to the fight, right?

I don't care about EU vs NA and AFAIK nobody else has since SNV. I think it's dope when any group kills bosses. There's like a handful of raiders who pull nim anymore nobody has time for goofy which continent is better stuff.

This strikes me as similar to NiM council where a dps would LOS calphayus behind a crystal to make her not drop fonts anywhere, which negated a pretty big part of boss placement. I know at the time, we looked down on teams using that (iirc HMD Magenta basically fell apart when it came out they did that)... That being said, the meta seems clearly different right now, and my question is: if this red venom panel timing is due to a bug that the patch put into the game (as I've heard apex is quite buggy) then I am more annoyed with the devs than anything else. Reminds me of NiM TFB final boss where the first kill was basically free bc the boss killed itself with enrage. Also, if basically every team pulling apex is doing the same thing, then it seems like the kill is valid. They full cleared, gg. Now it's just a countdown to time run.

LOL. We just came back so I don't think there's much of a reason for us to be brought up at this point in a prog thread. Everyone enjoy the raid and I hope by the time we get our full team up and running there are a good number of achievements in here

I'm not sure if you still are looking for a team to raid with, but <Death and Taxes> has returned and is actively recruiting! Message me on discord if you want to talk about it further (Colonelpumpy#6135).

We are going through current applications and have set up a heal and dps trial for the next lockout. As an update, we have locked in one of our raid nights, Tuesday. Once we finalize our main group, we will lock in the second raid night.

thank you for the quick response. I have all 3 tanks, and I have heard that all 3 are roughly fine to use for all content-- I know that in the past, some tanks were more ideal than others (NiM Brontes Sin tank, PT Tank on pre nerf HM Revan, etc) and I was wondering if it really mattered one way or the other in current meta. Before I left the game in 4.x I tanked all content so assume a baseline level of competence. I am willing to use any tank, but I won't lie I have more fun jugg tanking than I do sin tanking, etc.

This is going to be an odd question... I just came back, and getting an optimized tank set up and running will take a bit. Is there a rule of thumb of acceptable tank stats for the harder raid content in the game? Is it just a general "try and get the ratio close and optimize on the fly" or is there anything more specific?

Hi, you're literally wrong. It was proven all the way back in December, and if you want proof, after we quit, a birdie went through the game files for the fight and guess what, THERE IS A POSITIONAL BACKSTAB MECHANIC ATTACHED TO HK'S SNIPE. Know *** you are talking about pls. It's literally in the files for the fight. Literally the only way this is incorrect is if they SOMEHOW took that mechanic out of the fight when they nerfed it finally.

As I said in the post, 99.9% of the time it goes on only the healers. I have pre nerf revanchisted (weird phrasing) on multiple tank classes and have seen a snipe animation hit my tank.....two times in the grand total of.... dozens of kills, and before kills, numerous attempts? It's, with SOME VERY LIMITED exceptions a mechanic for healers to deal with EDIT: I just saw in another post that you figured out the answer to your own question basically making this post pointless, lol, keeping it for posterity sake

Decided to come out of forum retirement to help the community. HK-47 snipes if you are not facing him. If your back is turned, he will snipe you, based on, among other things, the aggro table. 99.9% of the time this just goes to healers. Here's how you avoid MOST snipes by HK: don't turn your back. YES, a number of healing abilities turn the body of the healer, but you can avoid MOST snipe damage by understanding this concept. This is not a red shirt theory where maybe it's position based. It absolutely is. Do not turn your back to HK in phase 1 floor one of Revan HM and you won't get sniped. If you get sniped anyway, then a healing GCD turned your character away from HK, simple. Go with that understanding, and you won't have issues. If Kak from DNT is still subbed he can confirm this, as it has been confirmed since December, same goes for Tefia of Zorz. 100% based on turning your back to HK. Enjoy

I've been co-signed by a TRE member and a progression raider at that. THREE MORE CO SIGNS BY TRE RAIDERS AND I CAN FINALLY BE PROUD OF MYSELF. FOURTH TRE MEMBER TO LIKE ME Bring the keyboard, not the warrior.