The PVE in GW2 is equaly a WOW clone as SWTOR are unfortunately with the differance that three of the first areas you are in are carbon copies of eachother so the content is atually quite limited compared to SWTOR. The PvP is more well thought out though and the game has no monthly fee. I tried GW2 beta and i were not impressed. Ill try it for the PvP as friends does but i imagine it wont keep me occupied for long. Im gonna keep my subscription for SWTOR as this game has more potential than GW2, if EA plays their cards right, and i have a lifetime sub for TSW wich actualy ended up being captivating. People may whine about the combat but still you have the "just one more mission before bed" Feeling and then notice three hours just went by.

Because the people who enjoy the game are online playing and not on forums whining. Its like working in a support helpdesk wich i did during univeristy. You only get to handle the complaints no calls from satisfied customers so its easy to get the impression that the products you support are piece of trash. In reality its usualy the other way around.

Do not hand every reward to everyone on a silver platter. there HAS to be rewards thats rare and require hard work and challenge. Or you shorten the lifespan of the endgame dramaticaly. WoW is the game that ruined the MMO community by making everything easymode and thus spoiled all the then 13 year olds. Whats the point to raid if you dont have rare and unique looking items to look forward to? Stats isnt everything so if everyone can pop a 5 minute commendation to get every appearance in the game, then you will have whine threads about no content or diversity instead of whine threads about not everything being served on a platter. Curling kids never learn if you keep sweeping infront of them.

Nobody has said that it is. As i wrote, as a worst case scenario, even IF it were running at 100% it still cant melt your CPU. Should they optimise the game further? Yes. Will it be done down the line? Yes. Its however totaly irrelevant to overheat problems because those are always caused by faulty cooling. Its not possible for software to overheat a computer with normal stock cooling unless the manufacturer ripped you off when designing your rig or something in it malfunctions. That you have a rig that runs at those temperatures is a warningbell. You should search for a hardware solution instead of waiting for Bioware to take down the heat footprint of the game, because your CPU can handle the heat, and worse, if its functioning as intended on die and with cooling.

What changed in the jan 6th patch were their changes to shadows to fix the FPS problems some people had in indoor locations and the fixing to properly displaying the chosen graphics level. Even if these changes means that heat output increase due to higher load it still cant go higher than 100% load. The jan 6th patch can, worst case, only put the CPU at 100% load as thats 100% of what your components are capable of performing. No patch can magicaly increase the performance of said components past 100%. Heat is 100% tied to the load level of your components. Ergo 100% load = the maximum heat output. As the components cant work harder than 100% of their capability then the heat output cant go higher than that. This means that even if the 6th jan patch were the most bugged piece of trash ever released. It can only push your computer to 100% of operational capability, unless you believe in magic. And thus the heat cant increase past that treshhold. If your computer shuts down on you when its at or near 100% stress, then its unable to handle the heat. A computer should always be, and are supposed to be, designed with cooling in mind at 100% load. Thus if your computer fails to cool the components at 100% load you have underdimensioned Cooling or a hardware malfunction. This is the responsibility of the manufacturer of the computer. Why not Bioware? Because you can get the same effect if you run IBM Burn or similar CPU stress test programs that puts the CPU at 100% load. If your computer fails a stress test does that mean IBM is to blaim who made the software? Of course not. Anything else is living in denial. Ergo SWTOR and Bioware is not responsible for your CPU overheating. I hope this explanation made things clearer for you.

Interesting viewpoint. Too bad you are incorrect. These examples of yours of straw man argumentation are disrespectful to people in this thread whos trying to give real help and answer real questions, not inflate myths or egos.

Actualy i have read every post you have made so far. Few claim that SWTOR is well optimised. Thats not the issue here. As most projects of this complexity it will get better optimisation down the line as we go. What i have a problem with is the belief that SWTOR cause peoples computers to melt and that its the game thats to blaim. Its not SWTORs falt as little as you can blaim SC2 for melting computers when it were released. It all comes down to subpar cooling or manufaturing malfunction. This is actualy a constant problem due to OEM retailers and such profiting on peoples lack of knowledge. But it only gets "front page evident" during huge game releases like SWTOR and SC2 due to the amount of machines being involved. Do you see my point`?

You dont need to have a masters at Computer science to know these things. I do have one but that dosnt mean i were ignorant before i graduated. The problem with "people" (hello generalisations) and computer purchases is that they buy a kickass computer, run the latest games and are blown away by how well it runs and how good it looks etc. However the latest games at the time of the release of a high end computer wont tax that computer to even near 100% and thus not its cooling. Now if there is a problem with the computers design, its cooling components or its manufacturing, then they will notice it when it does go to 100%, wich is when the Starcraft 2 or SWTOR of the day eventualy release wich may be as much as a year down the line. Then when their GPU melts they blaim the game when it was their computer all along. Common sense is to stress test your computer when you get it. if it fails, replace it on warranty as thats the fault of the manufacturer. This is probably what happened to the OP. Now to your claims about gaming laptops. A 17" or 18" gaming laptop isnt what everyone expects, because they had the wrong expectations to begin with. In reality i would classify them as a "Desktop Replacement". You can toss that ugly tincan and have a sleek and extremely powerful laptop on your desk instead wich is easily removed to a shelve or the like if you need to use the space for something else. Theres less cords and more open space. Also they draw far less power than desktops wich adds up down the line with todays power prices in some countries. Also contrary to what you claim, they are portable. Its not a computer you have on one knee in your livingroom with your remote in the other but you can easily pack it up and into the messenger bag in under a minute, accessories and all, and be on your way to work or wherever you want to use it. A gaming laptop of this caliber is a computer you move between power outlets. Its not something you run on battery. Thats its obsolete in 1-2 years is a myth. I have two gaming laptops at the moment in the 17" size range. The older one is 3.5 years old and still kick *** in current games. They do cost more than a desktop but the differance isnt as astronomical as it used to be. Thats also a myth. Instead you get what you payed for. So its far superior to a dekstop in whats important when it comes to computers. Also for the OP, cooling is even more important for laptops due to the smaller chassis. Not all manufacturers tend to design well for high load, so people who got heat problems have not done enough research before purchasing their laptop and should go for a refund and get a laptop with proper cooling wich can take 100% load without throttling or worse. Its the same here as for desktops, if you get a laptop for 300$ dont expect quality components or design that allows for higher temperatures. Unfortunately people tend to believe laptops has to be cheap as they are secondary computers to their desktops. You get what you pay for people.

You may find it patronising but if you are truly a techhead then you know that hes 100% correct. There is no denying that. You dont need a masters in computer science to know these things. Its common sense for electronics and computers. If there is pepole in this thread who truly had no idea how this really works then they are now better off as they have been informed. Whats there to be upset about?

I have the same laptop. Alienware M17x-r3 | intel core i7 2820QM | Nvidia Geforce GTX580M 2GB GDDR5 | 16 GB Kingston HyperX PNP 1866Mhz RAM | 2x OCZ Vertex 3 Max Iops 240GB SSDs | 17.3 " (1920x1080) 120hz Screen with Nvidia 3d | Bigfoot Killer-N 1103 | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit | Blue Ray slot fed. I have not repasted my GPU or CPU. Just added and replaced some components of my own like memory and SSDs. I run with it sitting on a Zalman ZM-NC3000U Notebook cooler (220mm fan with an anodised aluminum plate). I have zero heat problems and zero throttling. Tested running all the scenarios posted in here and im sorry mates but its your cooling thats not up to it. Like TestitoBandito said, try running furmark. If you have heat problems you will start to see them then as furmark etc will stress your system far more than SWTOR will. Sure SWTOR may very well havehave code thats not 100% optimised that makes it stress your system more than other games (not that i noticed any of that) but that will still not go higher than a pure stress test like Furmark etc.

They need to remove all the money created from this and all property purchased using said money including removing all vendor bought items like VIP wristbands, Expensive speeders and what not that people use to bind up credits from said accounts.

Unfortunately i dont have any myself. I were too high on adrenaline from all the good fights to think that clearly Im sure someone else had their wits about them and got some video or screenshots. The event would have been going on for far longer were it not for this crashing to queue problem.

Large scale open world PVP battles at HOTH on Tomb of Freedon Nadd today. Were lots of fun with KDS fielding atleast two full raids for Imps, Radiant Knights having one full raid for republic and there being atelast one mixed raid for Rep aswell lead by another PvP guild. Thanks to everyone involved! Unfortunately we started seeing people crashing out on both sides at the end of the event when we had about 100+ people fighting at the same spot (near republic spaceport camp on Hoth). As most of the crashers ended up in a 600+ Queue that meant the end of the event. My hope is that Bioware can stabilize the nodes so they can handle the numbers without crashing out and fixing the ending up in queue IF you crash out. Or future RvR and Open world PvP will be difficult events to organise as people will fear the queue.

Limiting companions from illum is a bad idea. Companions gets removed from the equation when you form a group anyway so removing them from the planet is a very bad idea when companions is one of the unique things with this game. Making them useless at lvl 50 pretty much as you only have operation and PVP content and operations means no companions as you are grouped in a raid. Instead think creatively. use companions as a faction balance factor on illum. The faction with less people gets to have their companions out, even when grouped, whilst the dominating faction dont. I also agree with a previous poster that we need consequenses for illum thats global. Like a faction exp bonus, hostile PVE spawns for loosing faction all over the galaxy due to the shift in the balance of war, battlefronts that shift on illum and so on. Daily quests in a stagnant rvr area is a sandbox idea and that will never work. The only people who will get to do RvR pvp is the people who formed their PVP community before launch and picked a server together with guilds at both sides. Illum without global consequenses wont invite new people to RvR. Illum needs to feel critical to hold for your faction, it needs to impact everything your faction does on all levels in all forms of gameplay. This needs to be evident to the player from level 10 onwards. Only then will you see people taking real interest in Illum because it has REAL meaning as it has a real impact on the galaxy. Think outside the box. Because the box itself is a recipy for long term disaster.

No exagaration. Tomb of Freedon Nadd has 5 hour queues at primetime and about 2 hours at non primetime. only time there is no queue is early morning euro time.