More like in the process of getting your account banned. Keep up the good job, op.

I think we can all agree that some form decent of matchmaking for normal wz's would be optimal, matching skill with skill. What bothers me about threads like this is the complete and utter exaggeration of the premade 'problem'. All this 'facerolling' and 'farming' just does NOT happen in the manner or frequency people here pretend it does. Or are we playing a different game? Because no matter on which server I soloqueue, my experiences seem to be completely different to yours. Oberyn, I leveled a sage on Shadowlands. Not my home server, did it for the lulz and to see new people in pvp. I exclusively soloqueued, and still do when I'm on my char there, having no interest in guilding or grouping up. I have played a few matches with you. Yes, you lose some, but it is NOT as devastating as you make it out to be. You will always have lopsided matches, but the reasons vary and can NOT be solely attributed to facing premades on the other team. You, and many of the people strictly against premades, make it sound as if facerolling and farming is standard when soloq'ing. It is not. You DO GET matches like that, I'm not disputing that - matches where you get spawncamped, where the enemy team doesn't score the last goal just to troll your team, we've all been there - but these matches are the MINORITY of matches, and not the huge problem you and others make it out to be. The reasons for these lopsided matches vary aswell: yes, you might be facing a good premade on the other team, but then again another reason might also be that you got lucky and got all the nubcakes on your own team (a more common problem, seeing as there are a LOT more people who do not have a clue what to do in warzones as opposed to good premades). And then again the other team, premade or no, might simply be better than your own, a fact that few people care to acknowledge (because when you lose it always has to be someobody's fault, right? Getting outplayed is a no-no.). Seeing as there currently is no system in place for proper matchmaking, you have to go with what the game gives you for now and make the best of it. If you do have the feeling you're facing a troll premade again and again, there's an easy solution: switch brackets or switch factions for a bit, then give it another go. Or simply wait a few minutes before you take the next pop to give the troll premade a chance to get a warzone different to yours. It's what most people do when they're on a losing streak. Frankly, I don't understand where all this hate is coming from. If you're unwilling to be a bit flexible as to how you play yourself, there's really nothing anybody can do for you.

Tridus... the only person you are 'debunking' here is yourself. Please stop before you hurt yourself . No matter how many sarcastic comments you hurl at the people trying to argue sensibly with you, it won't help your cause. As for Comfterbilly, any sympathy I might have had for your 'premade-problem' dissolved into thin air with your mentions of premading being akin to rape. Could you have stooped any lower? I think not. That, and your obvious problem with girls is disconcerting, to say the least. O.o I cannot take you seriously. Thumbs up to Doomsdaycomes, Cycao, Cashogy, Jadescythe, and all you others for showing the amount of patience you have shown here. I can safely say I can agree to most (if not all) points you have tributed to this discussion. Sad thing is, no matter how often you state the obvious, some people will never even try to listen.

Strange how most of those complaining about premades don't display any information about who they are or where they play in their sigs. That would really interest me. Anyway, I'd like to ask all you stalwart anti-premaders some questions, out of sheer curiosity. First of all, have you ever even been invited to a group of other people to do pvp with them ? Have you ever played pvp in a premade group with other people AT ALL, or have you only been solo-queueing since you started playing? Or did you convert from a premader to a pugger after you discovered how 'wrong' the current system is? If someone DID ask you to join them, did you decline out of sheer nobility so as not to be a part of an 'advantageous' premade group yourself? Do you know how many guilds there are out there and how many of them form premades - and can you honestly say they are all top-level quality? How often a night do you approximately lose as a pure PUG against the same premades over and over again? How often do you get matched up with a premade on your OWN team? How can you tell that you DON'T have a premade on your own team? What exactly is so incredibly scary about premades on the other team that leads you to promote the separation of queues so badly? How often have you lost matches because you were up against such overpowering premades as opposed to simply having total nubcakes on your own team? Then, where do you get the notion that every premade out there is somehow part of a ranked team, or out for high-level competitive pvp? Have you ever actually PLAYED ranked at all? Have you ever organised it, discussed a good group composition, played against other top teams? Do you know which premades on your server even DO ranked? This will make an interesting read, I'll wager. I'm tired of hearing the same arguments over and over again, I just really want to know where all you people are coming from. And please, if you can refrain from using the words 'facerolling', 'pugstomping' and 'people with rl issues' in you answers, it would be very much appreciated.

You don't want to go too low on expertise... under 900 seems drastic. I'd say anything under 1100 exp is too low for pvp.... you really shouldn't underestimate it. What you should take into consideration is this: - You want to min/max your gear towards willpower and secondary stats, those being power and crit. If you look at the WH/ Elite WH pieces, you'll see mods with 60 willpower and 12 secondary stat, as well as mods with 51 willpower and 39 secondary stat. ALWAYS go for the second type of mods - meaning the ones with less willpower and more secondary stat. - Same goes for the enhancements. Go for the ones that have high amounts of power/ crit and surge. - To make up for the loss in willpower, you can equip 3 of your pieces with Advanced Resolve Armoring 27. These pieces should be your belt, your bracers, and one other piece of your choosing. - To be effective, your crit chance when buffed should be over 35%, I'd say around 38% would be optimal. The rest you should invest in power. Forget about alacrity, you REALLY don't need it - it's better for a healer to be casting slower but better heals rather than faster but smaller heals. Reserve your alacrity for 2 pieces only: War Hero Force-lord's MK-1 System, get both of these and you'll be fine Hope I could help you here. You'll see that the numbers speak for themselves.

On my server there are a good number of full healing sages/ sorcs that haven't respecced, despite the general increase in bubble stunners. I for one have been full healing spec and will stay true to it. Despite the utility the bubble tree provides, it feels wrong to me changing to a spec I don't enjoy playing simply because it's fotm. Have also been doing ranked in full healing and fared very well with it, noone on my team has ever complained about my performance or asked me to switch. I have seen bubble spec sages/ sorcs do amazing amounts of healing in this spec, so it is definitely viable. If people aren't producing great numbers, they aren't doing it right and would probably suck at full healing aswell. ............................................. As for the OP: situational awareness is all it comes down to, basically. - If you're a tank, give me a guard and stay focussed on me like you're supposed to. Come to my help when I'm in trouble. Focus targetting should be easily done - you see my health drop, you stop whatever you're doing and come to my rescue. Be assured that if you show me some love, I'm going to be healing the **** out of you the rest of the wz and all of those other wz's we might be in together. Healers don't forget dedicated tanks.^^ - Again if you're a tank and have given me a guard, do not run away from me first thing when we're off the speeder. If I'm supposed to heal mid, I don't want you running off to one of the side turrets... I want you at my side. - Use. Your. Taunts. And buffs. And the other utilities you have at your disposal. But in all honesty, I shouldn't be the one telling you how to play your class. (Classic example: beginning of a huttball match. Me: "Pop transcendence please." Sent: "Sure!" ..... *no transcendence, opposing team gets the ball* "/sigh"......... Not necessarily to do with healers, but you get my meaning.) - Stay in range. If you choose to go fight way out there and then complain that I'm letting you die, well.... too bad. I'm not wasting my friendly pull on someone who thinks he can charge in and faceroll 5 reds simultaneously. I'm also not going to blow my cover after I have found my sweet spot and run out into the open if you're fighting way out there, if that would mean that I would start getting focussed. - Watch out for my aoe. If you see a yellow or purple circle on the ground, stand near it. No, don't all group up IN it in a tight bunch printing "smash me" across your foreheads, just get close enough for the heals to get through. - If you see me running past you with a red behind me, please, PLEASE focus that red! I'm not running past you because I feel like bonding with you during a match, but because I'm trying to get your attention because I'M IN TROUBLE. That also goes for pulls: if I pull you to me either a) you're about to die, or b) I'm about to die. (Or we're playing Huttball.) - For me probably one of the most important things in a pug wz: Don't leave me guarding an objective alone. Ever. Seriously, what were you thinking?? First of all, I'm squishy. I might be an excellent kiter, but against 2 stealthers who pop up out of nowhere and know what they're doing I'm toast in no time. And second, who the hell did you think would be healing you at that other turret if I'm stuck here guarding?? - You're free to name yourself however you want, but turning off your mile-long titles in a wz would definitely make things easier for me. Yes, I have my ops frame, but there ARE occasions where I need to discern WHO that person in the middle of that huge mob actually IS so that I can pull him - meaning my ops frame doesn't help me. If I see things like "Grand Champion of the Great Hunt" or "First Line of Defense" with another title like "Captain" + your weird-ish name + your legacy strewn in somewhere around there, it's precious time lost for me trying to sort out who you are. May sound silly to you, but believe me, your chances of staying alive without the flashy title are higher. ..... Those were the most important points for me, I guess. It all boils down to whether people actually care about investing energy in you as a healer or not. When people actually acknowledge you as a healer, it is a very gratifying experience, and the mutual respect and teamwork make up a large part of the fun for me, even in losing warzones. - lvl 50 sage/ sorc healer, The Red Eclipse

Your logic is still flawed. First of all, premades exist on both sides - the probability of having a premade on my own team should be about the same as having a premade playing against me, no? And if I have a premade on my own team, according to some of you, shouldn't that enhance my probability of winning? People are always assuming it's the poor 8 pugs on one team that get beat up by the baddie premades on the other team, while they conveniently forget that they are just as likely to be playing with premades on their own teams a good number of times. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, of course it does! I've been there. But it's still not as frequent or as tragic as some people make it out to be. Then, even if pugs come and go, if they are the majority then there still wouldn't be a difference, would there? Then the same premade that has been playing for 3 hours will just have different pugs with them during that time. So what? I really fail to see the problem. And please don't tell me you roflstomp pugs on a regular basis with your premade without any chance of competition ever. If premades are that frequent, which is basically what everyone arguing against premades is saying, then there should be at least a few challenging premades you are put up against every evening. When we queue, we get it all: some we win, some we lose, some we get put up against the best team on the server and we get our hinies kicked, other times it's our team bashing in other peoples' heads. It's variety.... you can't win them all. I am really sorry, but if someone is trying to tell me they get their behinds handed to them on a regular basis in pvp, and the reason for this are overwhelming premades, I am sorry... I simply cannot take this seriously. PVP has many problems, but premades are really not one of them. :/

Uhm... you do realise the person you quoted is on my side, right? And... where was the part where I mentioned anything about anyone's l33t skillz? Must have missed it, or my english is indeed worse than I thought. And while we're at it.... could you introduce me to those floods of hapless fresh 50's that quit pvp altogether on a regular basis because of premades? I'd really love to meet them! But to be honest, HuaRya, I have read some of your posts concerning this matter.... they are not very coherent, nor do they contain any really good arguments - except if you think that calling people names and generalising everything can be considered a good argument. So to be frank, I am not expecting a lot to come from it...

It has been said by countless other people on at least 2 other threads on this forum, but here goes. People keep talking about Bioware catering to premades, even though solo-queuers represent the vast majority of pvp'ers. If this was indeed true, the chance of you as a solo-q'er being pitted against a premade shouldn't be all that big per se, should it? The chance of you being matched against a premade, especially against an exceptionally well-geared and experienced premade, should be marginally low. So no reason to complain. People stating they are being matched against top-geared pvp-guild premades 90% of the time are simply exaggerating, to say the least. If it was the other way around, and premades constituted the vast majority of pvp'ers, well.... no reason to complain then either, because in that case Bioware would already be catering to the majority, wouldn't they? This point alone should be self-explanatory. If you as a solo-queuer constitute the vast majority, there shouldn't be a matchmaking problem, since most of the time you would be pitted against other parts of that 'vast majority'. Of course you will be pitted against premades every now and again, but certainly not to the extent that they would be ruining the bigger part of your pvp experience. Not to mention that: a. There is no way in hell a solo-queuer will constantly get pitted against premades without having a premade of his own on his team roughly the same amount of times. It is not as if premades were restricted to one faction only - they are not always on the 'other team', but roughly the same amount of time there should be one on 'your team' aswell. b. You cannot always identify a premade. I form premades with friends from quite a few different guilds, and unless someone says anything in ops chat, there is no way the other people in our team could possibly know we are playing together. In these sort of premades, btw, we do not use voice chat at all. But I can rely on the other people knowing what they are doing without that form of voice communication. c. Not every premade is good, or exceptionally well-geared. The elite war hero min-maxed premades that didn't get a ranked pop are the exception to normal wz's - not the rule. How high can the chance be of you encountering premades like this over and over and over again for you to come here and cry about them? If that really is the case on your server, then you have a vastly unhealthy pvp population and should really consider moving. :/ d. A premade does not constitute a guaranteed win. The premade might be the best-geared, vastly experienced crew on the server, but four people cannot carry four bad pugs. Okay, I guess it's time for me to sit back, have a coffee and wait for the bashing to start. About me and my posse of 'Premaders' only doing it to roflstomp pugs, being afraid of 'real' competition, yada yada yada. And just fyi, I solo queue about 50% of my pvp time, simply because either noone else wants to queue at that moment because they're doing ops or whatnot, or because I'm feeling antisocial.^^ And trust me, having a healing sage main, I know how painful pug experiences can be if you're caught on a team of idiots. I understand. I just don't feel sorry for people who insist on having THIS experience exclusively and come here to cry about it.

Redeemed my EGA code on September 26th, got the invite about an hour ago.

At a speed of about 700kb, it took me forever to download. I eventually went to bed and did it overnight. >.>

Difficult to say. Although I would guess that the Trooper might be the least popular class... so little flair in comparison to the others.

Hey Chris! =) Excited? Check. First MMO? Check. Shy? Naaaah. I'm just eager to see what awaits me after I receive the ominous email (DUNN-DUH-DUNNNNN!!!). Welcome to the club, rookie!

Cocoa. Lots of it. And sushi, doesn't get yer fingers dirty!

Really, really difficult choice. KotOR I prefer playing dark, KotOR II I prefer playing light. I chose to side with light this time simply because I thought the armour looked better. >.< Silly way to make a choice, but you're completely stuck in a decision you atomatically turn to the details.