Not the point. My only frustration is with stupid game design. No need to chuck out all the deeper rpg elements of pvp in favour of idiot proof bolster. Dumbed down gaming does not solve problems it creates them. Having a random vs random only option is just common sense. It stops farming of pug groups and gives casual players a more fun game. I am not casual. I play in pre-made and ranked. I just don't like seeing this sort of dumb gaming and get no fun out of wiping out a bunch of disorganised pugs. Any fool can shoot fish in a barrel. Don't help you get better or give them any kind of chance to learn. In the country of the blind the one eyed man is king

Not at all. Bolster is pure rubbish. Its the equivalent to removing any roleplaying element and just having bulk standard toons. Equipment becomes irrelevant and no reward for carefully gearing your toon. PVP will now just be ruled by pre-mades. They will have all the advantages as individual gear becomes irrelevant and its all about focus firing & organisation. With this system there has to be Pug only options or there will be no balance at all. Clueless players that have no idea how to gear will like bolster because its idiot proof. Players that know the score will only play in pre-made. I Play in teams a lot but take no satisfaction from farming a load of hapless idiots. I would rather have a balanced and challenging fight. 55 PVP is just same as 50 pvp was before 2.0. Give people a balanced playing field that allows for skill & careful gear management and you have a competitive and fun game. That's what it should be all about. Even the weak can find somewhere to be strong

Nice job Bioware! PVP is now even more broken than it was before. Bolster system is a joke, people going naked for best stats? ***!! That's you solution to PVP? Turbo charged cool-downs and healers on steroids? That's your idea of balance? Every PVP match now before 55 is just pre-made focus firing people off spawns in seconds. In a number of matches I have played we just sat on their spawn & killed them b4 they even got off it. In the matches where I was in pug same happened to me. No skill, just superior firepower due to being organised vs pug. The only thing that needed to balance pvp was very simple. A small box that you could check in the WZ queue that enables PUG vs PUG ONLY. No premades. That way if anyone wants a random, fair match they put a little tick in the box. Then they wont be farmed for weeklies by tithead50 or aintwecool100 or some such bunch that enjoy wiping out a team of randoms. As an 8 man pre-made it is simple to wipe out 8 man pug. No challenge, no skill. Be like throwing 8 civilians into a wargame with 8 soldiers all mic'd up with superior weapons & gear. You wanna prove your the man? go 1 on 1 or 8 man ranked or pug vs pug random only and you can have the satisfaction of knowing your skill made it happen. You wanna farm weekly, or just be a big fish in a puddle? Tough *****, go queue for ranked; no one other than you cares. If the Random Only option was implemented it would level the playing field for everyone. OP healing and dps on speed is not an answer. Neither is naked pvp. Flame away, I don't care. Anyone that wants decent, fair pvp would welcome the random vs random only option. The PVP farmers will just have to farm each other in ranked or pre-made vs pre-made only matches.

Read it again. Notice the use of the word 'you' in the next sentance? obviously mispelled from 'your' as in 'your big 3 button rotation'. The grammer threw me initially also.

Well considering the changes have not as yet come in that is no great suprise. Also i am not suggesting buffs to my class and nerfs to others. I would like them to stop nerfing as knee jerk reactions, build on more depth, buff so called weaker classes and stop fiddling about without thinking things through. I could not give a damn about highest dps scores in pvp etc, my only concern is overall effectiveness to win matches. As i said, run the numbers, educate yourself and maybe think about what they are doing compared to other classes. First rule of cookie club? There is no cookie club.

LOL. Yes genius, it does. A tiny little one on long cooldown. Run four min sustained battle and compare the shadow/assassin self healing against Vanguard/PT. That little bit is about as much use as a snooze button on a smoke alarm for anything more than a straight boss fight. In PVP or when trying to solo a large mob in a heroic it achieves nothing other than slightly prolonging the inevitable. On the Shadow/ Assassin i can self heal every 3-4 rotations and can heal more from overcharged saber. There is no comparison. But feel free to nit pick without any usefull contribution anytime. Cookies are friends not food

The only reason anyone whines about OP assault in PVP is that a lot of people playing it just spam around targets getting their dots on for high overall dps. BIG DEAL. They may have highest dps but actual impact on winning the game is absolutely minimal. Getting highest dps in pvp is easy, being a good player that actually contributes to a win and can finish an enemy player fast and effectively is something else. With the upcoming nerfs the trooper will have reduced combat effectiveness overall in all areas. In PVE any ranged class can just sit & spam attacks with a few moves here & there to avoid those really hard to spot big red circles. In PVP you try sitting & spamming attacks against a good team, see how long you last. Trooper/BH class is getting short end of stick. Simple. Even as a tank the Vanguard now sucks. I can solo a four man heroic on BH way easier on my Shadow than on Vanguard. Just look at the difference in utility & survivability. If they want the game to be fun & challenging for anyone over the age of 15 then they should embrace the hybrid's and power up other classes. let it be decided by skill not nerf. Never save a cookie for tomorrow that you could eat today

That is pretty funny. While i agree that the rotation is easy (lets face it most are) it is sure as hell not as simplistic as a smasher or Merc/Comm spamming. Any Melee based dps class is tougher to play well in pvp than a ranged. Also and very radical i know, is the concept that overall dps in pvp is really not the point. Any fool can get high dps if they just run around spamming damage like a child swatting bees with a stick. If you dont believe me try either a sage/sorc or operative/scoundrel and just run about tabbing & spamming your dots. While you may get the highest dps on the table your actual effectiveness as a player is terrible. For a dps class to shine in pvp it needs (in the hands of a competent player) to be able to deliver fast, effective dps; with sustained pressure. it also needs utility. Smashers are so popular because 3 of them together can burst down a group of people in seconds. Winning is what counts in pvp and often the winning teams have awful dps simply because they focused on objectives. My point with the nerf to the BH/Trooper is that actual combat effectiveness overall is significantly reduced. There is no cookie

Ageed. Ham handed nerfing of classes without any consideration of overall play balance. If your PVE and PVP game overlap directly in terms of skill trees and trained abilites then you can't go messing with stuff based on one sided opinions. If they keep this up there will be some crazy imbalances between the effectiveness of a class in PVE/PVP A cookie in the hand is worth two in the Jar .

Who said anything about 'kissing the game goodbye?'. Also, unless i am mistaken, forums are there for people to express how they feel about the game. If you actually do the math i think you might find it works out to be a few more 'hits' to you dps than you seem to think. Run the numbers and you will see how over four minutes of sustained dps you will lose a significant amount of damage. If you are truly happy with that then maybe try pounding in nails with a foam hammer or fending off the undead with a Nerf gun. Should be quite challenging and right up your street. A fool can waste more cookies than a wise man can eat

I agree completely. It just feels like the devs have it in for troopers somewhat. I have a 50 shadow tank and its crazy how much easier i can solo 4 man heroics on BH and Ilum etc. On my shadow i have an 8 sec cc, 1 min cc, 4 sec stun, stealth, combat escape, and can self heal every 3 rotations. On my Vanguard I have a 4 sec stun and 2 sec aoe stun. I mean come on. If its designed as pure meat shield thats fine but give it the durability to make up for the total lack of utility. Only Cookies have the answer

I find it cute that you assume i play Commondo. My trooper is a Vanguard. It would seem that your the one 'crying' about 3 button rotations and those naughty old smashers. I couldnt care less about so called OP classes. Up the power of other classes rather than nerf a class. Troopers & BH's are now underpowered accross the board. The only compensation in is in PVE where a Com or Merc can just be a gun turret with little interuption. In pvp they are doomed unless supported by a good team (healer & tank). Maybe the biggest problem for you is that you need to actually learn to play pvp, then those nasty smashers and commandos wont own you so badly.I have a 50 operative and have never been beaten 1 on 1 by a commando. Any halfway competent pvp player would never have trouble with one unless they play one themselves. Feel free to 'cry' some more though. Come to the Darkside, we have cookies

Good for you. Hope you thoroughly enjoy the reduction in damage.

Ok so have you lost your minds at BIoware now? After nerfing the troopers pvp ability and ruining the shield spec & stockstrike you now want to make it even less use in 2.0? Reduced Internal damage from 8% to 5% on High Energy, No increase to ranged crit chance from Charged Loaders, Blaster Augs down to 1% from 3%?!! No Ion Pulse Crit increase off Gut? Assault Plastique now a DOT? Rain of fire no longer causes full auto to increase dmg? You have gone bonkers crazy. How can you even think this is reasonable when your quite happy with Sents, Mars, Guardians & juggs running around doing 7k group crits with smash & sweep on an unlimited number of targets in range? I know this is PTS at moment but if your seriously thinking of pushing this through 2.0 main update then I think there will be a lot of unhappy troopers out there, particularly in pvp. In a world of madness only cookies have the answer