Yea.... Cause sitting in AV for hours at a time getting Mage bombed and warrior fear bombed was SO GODDAMN fun. I love people like you that say it "used" to be so fun, but CLEARLY do not remember the unbalanced state the game was in at that time. You could take literally 5 mages in AV and AOE an entire team down, or take warriors and fear bomb entire teams to get the advantage. Or a rogue killing you in a 1hit opener...... ohhh SO fun. get over yourself. The game sucked at that time, and is nothing BUT better now. The only decent thing about WoW is the what used to be the Old SS Vs. TM battles. All player made, all player driven, all player fun. People that say Vanilla WoW pvp was awesome are people that dont mind driving a 86 mazda....... in 2012. Why even talk like its decent? its just silly...........

Um, since when was WOWs Arenas/PvP killed? >.> <.< Did i miss something here lol? I just watched a 25k+ tourney the other night?

http://www.downfallguild.org/node/8602 Fixed.

Common sense often baffles even the most educated. - George Carlin

So....... by this math. It would seem mostly all classes are OP? Lending a prime example in the game as far as classes are concerned to be balanced? Ah whatever. NERF SORCS ! Edit: hate my droid.

So, lets be honest. These forums are filled with rubbish. But I got to thinking. Do we all not want our game to succeed? All the crying threads, what games may or may not come out, this is better then that, etc. I agree that this game does need some fixes. But when do we as a gaming community give it time? Not blowing the " games failing" whistle so fast? I added it up, over the last nine plus years of my MMO gaming.I have spent upwards of 800$ in just game purchases. Not including monthly fees. ( Yes,I even bought Tabular Rasa lol). Alls I'm saying is we all play MMOs. At the end of the day its us as the gamers who will make or break it. Quit writing brand new games off just because of a few bugs or fixes. Cause if you think GW2, or any other game will be prefect then you are very clouded. I want my gaming community in Swotor, buddies to play with. Not lambs that didn't give anything a chance and jump from game to game just cause its new. Its our choice is all I'm saying. Being positive takes more effort I guess I don't know~

So, lets be honest. These forums are filled with rubbish. But I got to thinking. Do we all not want our game to succeed? All the crying threads, what games may or may not come out, this is better then that, etc. I agree that this game does need some fixes. But when do we as a gaming community give it time? Not blowing the " games failing" whistle so fast? I added it up, over the last nine plus years of my MMO gaming.I have spent upwards of 800$ in just game purchases. Not including monthly fees. ( Yes,I even bought Tabular Rasa lol). Alls I'm saying is we all play MMOs. At the end of the day its us as the gamers who will make or break it. Quit writing brand new games off just because of a few bugs or fixes. Cause if you think GW2, or any other game will be prefect then you are very clouded. I want my gaming community in Swotor, buddies to play with. Not lambs that didn't give anything a chance and jump from game to game just cause its new. Its our choice is all I'm saying. Being positive takes more effort I guess I don't know~

How do you NOT take TD? This build is trying to be something its not~ You choose Infered Sensor over Degauss? Really.... 1/2 in Gyroscopic? common..... Even Prototype Cylinders or Hot Iron is not even remotely close to being> Thermal Detonator. There is no exception for FULL Pyro over some random hybrid build. Period. Its just a mess, and offers nothing over a standard build.

It honestly never gets old.

If were talking Premade PVP here. No good premade is going to let a Merc live ever. And when i mean ever i mean having 1-2 tanks up your *** with a dps to boot. Mercs even with heals simply cannot and will not give there team an advantage because its simply SO easy to lock them out from doing there job. You say they have a AOE knockback?..... yea..... but lets not list the numerous classes with gap closers, lets be real here. I dont know of ANY highend PVP premade atm that would rather take a Merc DPS over -almost- anything else. When gear and skill are not a factor. They simply do not give anything to a team another class does not and will not do better with proper support.

Not only is PT simply more viable in PVP then Merc. But PT~Pyro trees/talents have more modifiers to increase Pyro damage then Mercs. Not to mention Explosive Fuel being used with stims/trinkets/buffs to create higher burst with Pyro specifically. Yes, Mercs can heal. But a full DPS spec Merc cannot and will not heal himself through one good melee/player. 3-4k castable max crits are nothing unless you can hard LOS people or run, which again is very situational. With proper spec PTs can not only juggle 4-5 constant interupts, but at the end of the day are more suited for team play and even 1v1 solo. Mercs in DPS are a gimmick spec. PS: I do however think Merc healing is good. my whole rant is not at all dogging merc heals~

Powertech~

By Ownage, you mean out gearing most people, never really getting focus on by more then 1-2 players, getting max hits of like 6k?, and..... lastly fighting a decently geared anni mara and having to run and get a healing buff only to almost die again if help didnt show? Not sure how highly you think of yourself. But this movie shows nothing that a player who actually knows what there looking at would deem impressive. Sure its -decent- damage, sure you can lock down undergeared healers, any class can pull the numbers and outcome you showed. Sry, but your movie is nothing to keep trying to brag about.... in multiple forums now.

Go away, you wont be missed dude. seriously, just quit posting. It's getting a little sad.

Its Rare to see a BM? really......? really.........?