You are right, in a way. The OP-comp thing started when BW failed to maintain proper balance with dot spreads/snipers/pts. Before S3 I think it was not so common. If it's a mirro OP comp then better team usually wins anyway. Also flow of teams seems to vary from season to season. edit: also its a reward problem + presence of soloq in a game.

This is like talking to a wall, nothing gets through you.

Well, idk. I'd just like to read that topic. Or is it just people spreading lies? They won't close the game or whatever, game is big, come on.

Doesn't open up

Have you guys met spectre yet in team ranked? The guy from their guild has a big mouth.

AFAIK TRE. This(5th dec) saturday.

esl Please do, because we don't want people with your IQ following and believing the nonsense you've managed to spread within this thread. Thanks.

Thank you.

You did it wrong, Main european 1v1 tourney is taking place on 5th dec. Bad timing on yourrs + very few sign-ups and mostly nonames. Try to time it better next time. GL.

Ofc we live on different planets. You live on one, where spectre are known, talented and dedicated PvPers. I live on one, where actual best PvPers don't say a single word on forums and just reck bads like you on streams. You should've said that you have mental disorder in OP. It would make things easier. Here, let me do the work for you. I can honestly go on and on. You can click on pages in the bottom right corner, see for yourself, it works. Just stop making fun of yourself. It's getting pathetic. Tell me if you need this chewed out. I'm fine with helping disabled people.

No no, obviously a site that puts noname games and DC universe online above Guild Wars 2(the only MMORPG that has more or a less constant competitive base and ESL) in terms of PvP is the most credible gaming site in the world. Just ****, honestly. What a joke you are. You are just a baddie that wanted to talk big without consequences. Well now that you got your *** handed back to you, you can also try and q team ranked(in b4 u get completely destroyed by every tofn team) and finally turn into another "PvP guild" that only does normals. Owned.

Thanks for a good laugh. Recognised worldwide. Just take AA out of this list - a korean farmfest where you have your own steading, woooo. Ofc WoW gives credibility, it actually was THE competitive MMORPG, when it was one of the few games in online industry that actually had small-scale pvp(aka arenas, aka real skill test). I dont think you understand what does actual, meaningful PvP mean(a type of PvP, where some kind of achievements/results obtained in it actually mean something) : -It's not a 40v40 PvP battle where individual player skill matters so little/close to nothing. -it's not a 1v1 type of scenario(unless its some kind of Blade & Soul), or a MIRROR class duel -It's not mindless, fluffy "guild PvP" where you obtain a castle and hold it, so enemies can't get control of it. Get it? Basically, almost everything that is <10 players gives credibility. Something where YOUR skill comes into play, not skill of other 39 players, of your 20 guild members. Something, where it's all YOU: 2v2, 3v3,4v4, where your badness can lead to a loss, where your missplaced CC can lead to a loss etc etc. You want to believe in that BS that these games(the ones you listed) are recognized world-wide - you do so, gl. I believe that games like WoW, GW2, EVE, DOTA, LoL, CS, SC2, Fighting games, Chess are credible, when it comes to PvP. First link: MOBAS, MMORPGS, RPGS - all thrown into one category. You do realise those numbers matter absolutely nothing, even for EVE(which was voted 6k). That's like what, 0,000000000000000000000001% of actual people playing online games, that cared to vote? Your beloved Archeage got 137 votes, while Diablo 3 got 75. You just self-owned yourself by linking this. Second link: DC Universe Online is a better PvP game than GW2(according to that "list"). The actual best PvP MMORPG there is...is at like 40th spot or so. I expected you to be a retard, but this is next level. Oh and by the way, Im Living Legend in Bugs Bunny & Taz: Time Busters.

With the attitude of "Specter.Remember us/ You will see it many times when you step into wz, will be above heads of some of the greatest people you play with, or u spit it out after getting defeated over and over again" "specter will be known as respected and outstanding PvPers etc." Are you *********** imbecile or what? Why do I even ask. No conclusions. Where do you see "after two matches" exactly in my post, blind much? I'm just giving you tips so you don't fail miserably, especially considering you put these kind of words(that I quoted earlier) without having anything to back yourself up with. You are living legend in Ryzom? ****, that absolutely changes everything. Not that I have no idea *** is that or what does that mean, but ok. If you had achievements in wow/gw2 of some sort I'd understand, but are you *********** honestly promoting yourself as this? AA, DAOC, AOC, so many garbage mmos, Im not even sure you are serious at this point. I played 8v8 RWZs for both IRS and MvPs, quit(when they removed 8v8s)/play rarely.

You may never reach that endgoal with that kind of attitude and arrogance right off the get-go. If you want to be a good PvP guild, that doesnt want to end up as a server's laughing stock(like infamo did) - you don't, you just don't write OPs like urs. You better deliver, otherwise you'll get the same bad reputation as MvPs and infamo did(for diff reasons). Just don't give up on ranked immediately and turn into another IRS/ACE/MvPs after small/no success. After that it only goes 2 ways: -Turn into nwz guild with <average players -Members leave and join better guilds gl You are not supposed to make fun of your own kind. Or idk how it works for you tbh, you tell me. These guys went with the same "talented and dedicated players" moto. Rest is history. Literally.(sarcasm intended, I'd like to put that there since you might have problems understanding things, judging from your op)

aww delusional spotted