ITEM DUPE - CREDIT SELLER SCAM Basically what is happening is that there is a credit seller that is using stolen accounts to sell black/black dyes cheap to convert into credits. They are using a handful of alts to sell, and they are posting them every few days. So far it is only on the SS server, and the devs either haven't caught on, or they don't care. There is a another post about in the forums just a few days ago. I wish they would look into it really.

You can't really judge a few hundred thousand as failure during those mmo days. It was the pre-million sub wow era, and 200-300k was considered a decent success by many mmo standards of the day. Most of the gaming industry still considered MMO's of the time as a niche product. No one realized the sorts of profits that could be had from a mmo model. With that being said, SWG did reach 500K subs at it's peak which was at the release of the JTL expansion 1 year after launch. From there it was a steady decline due to the devs being forced to start chasing the popularly growing WOW, rather than focusing on the game's strengths and drowning their players with new content. Instead the SOE suits forced the devs to make jedi easier to get, and then pressured them to clone wow over and over, which we all know how that turned out. Ironically, SWG at its end really wasn't a bad game. And it had a lot more to offer than many realized, but it got the shutdown orders after the announcement of SWTOR (people where genuinely hoping it was going to be a swg 2.0 style game). What is sad, is that the game really was years ahead of its time with the features it offered. Many of which still aren't even attempted today. Ultimately, a perfect Star Wars mmo would be one that could fully encapsulate SWG and SWTOR into a single mmo, then you really would have a contender for the top MMO spot.

As much as I would wish that SWG 2.0 would become a thing if SWTOR finally dies, I really doubt it would happen. In fact, and sadly, I think we would go literal years without a Star Wars mmo. There would be pseudo mmo style games during that time, but not a full on mmo. Finally after all of those years, there would finally be some renewed interest in making a Star Wars mmo again. And that would then take another 3-5 years of production to make happen. So if swtor takes a dive after the Anthem launch, then I predict a good 10 years before we would get something comparable.

This is exactly right!

"What did you do this weekend? Did you go para-sailing over that Cancun beach you had been talking about? " Nah man, I stayed shut in doors playing crab smash all week in a mmo ever since they released the new housing. Those little buggers ain't getting mah beach umbrellas!!!! ......

Here is probably the most up to date link on it: May 8th, 2018 - Working on Linux Mint

Great!

EXACTLY! Players want a complete puzzle! A complete puzzle caters to all aspects of design and types of play. It's a must for any mmo to be successful. When you start giving players a puzzle missing a lot of pieces, then the players aren't going to be interested in completing it. That's when the puzzle gets put in a box in the garage to never be seen again, and that's what has happed to swtor, albeit slowly.

No I haven't read that before, so thanks for the link. That was just my observations that I remember from that time.

I'd also like to add that the original devs didn't have a clear definition of what to do beyond the story content. They gave the impression that they didn't think that far ahead, and they certainly didn't expect players to gobble through the content as fast as they did. They were expecting to have a lot of time to figure things out with what they thought was a lot of playable content.

I agree. I wish no one was leaving, and it's always sad to see someone go, but I understand where they are coming from.

So, when they say that they will announce the changes just prior, I take it to mean that they will be offering all kinds of stuff from the packs for direct sale, but don't want to gut their own sales until then, so they will keep it quiet.

indeed

this....

The smart launderers from the recent credit exploit would have bought out the entire deco market for that sweet sweet prestige.