You have a strange defintion of losing one's mind. I was just asking the question because I'm new and didn't understand why the 1st expansion was free for me as a subscriber. Thanks to all for the replies. How much did they ask for Hutt Cartel expansion at launch?

Pretty much the post title.....I think their species looks awesome with the eyes and everything.

Items should not be sold (possibly for real money) on the Cartel Market if they are subject to major obvious glitches. I bought the dark initiate's robes from the CM about a month after I started playing and was really burned by the fact that the back of my characters head majorly clipped the back of the hood whenever he was in a combat stance w/ lightsaber out. I know this issue is present with other robe chestpieces but this item is on the CM market. So it equates to either a loss of money (if your free to play and bought the CC) or a waste of your CC (if your subscriber and get the free allotment). I get that for whatever reason it cant be fixed (as I see people have complained in posts about this for years), but then don't put it on the CM. Anything on the Cartel Market...potentially being sold for real money, should work/appear as intended and if it can't meet that requirement then it shouldn't be listed for sale. The robes in question are still listed for sale. It sorta stinks of greed...... At the very least there should be an disclaimer about potential clipping issues. As a new player I had not run into any clipping issues up to that point. I wouldn't have bought it had I realized because i play with the camera close enough that its seriously distracting.

The Rise of the Hutt Cartel was free. Forgive my ignorance I've only been playing for 3 months. This is my first mmo and I only took the plunge because its StarWars. I had been considering pre-ordering so that I could level a bunch of characters that I thought I'd probably never get to. Then it occurred to me that I might have to drop the 20$ regardless if I wanted the expansion. Now I'm almost certain that's the case. I'm also certain I didn't pay for the last expansion so what gives? Also, why can't we buy the new expansion via cartel coins?

Thanks for the responses. I've figured out that you should buy things from GTN when possible. But certain items can only be had through events....and yea I could save up for the dathimore? rancor i think its called...but the kingpin one looks cooler imo....idk. Also, a question about the crew skills to gain credits. Don't you pretty much need multiple characters to properly craft items worth selling on GTN?...or no? And in general how much are people putting into the slots to get the rancor does anybody know? I read somewhere that somebody put in 8 million credits and still didnt get one. Thats nuts.

So I've been playing this game for about a month now. I've put quite a few hours into it in that month and am now at level 45. I'm on my first "toon" and this is my first MMO. Around 5-7 levels ago i realized the nar shadaa event was going on and that i could get a rancor. I love the starwars universe and the first time i saw someone riding around on a rancor i was like "I must have that!" So I've been farming money mostly through flashpoints and dailies and have put over 500K into the slots to no avail(rancor wise). All this money i could have spent on my character instead just gone ... Anyways so about the decision I have to make.... Before I even knew about the slots/rancor mess I would occasionally spend my planetary commendations on the really expensive artifact/prototype case/box things. Once I spent like 36 commendations on one and when i opened it it had a sweet robe and I was psyched until I realized my marauder couldn't wear them. They're called Supreme Inquistor's robes and they look really sick and I had planned on making an inquistor so I put em in my cargo hold until then. Well after losing all my money chasing this rancor I started selling all my stuff on GTN and discovered to my amazement that those robes are pretty rare. I saw someone selling them for 3 MIllion creds! So my dilemma is whether or not I should sell the Supreme Inquistor's Robes on GTN to continue to fund my rancor chase. I know that I'm not even guaranteed a Rancor with 3 million creds and it would really suck losing these robes and not getting a rancor. What should I do!? Does anybody know how much those robes are actually worth on GTN? Is the rancor too much of a long shot? If it weren't my first toon I'd just keep sinking money in but at this point I am way behind on purchasing all the abilities I've unlocked over the past couple of levels. I don't know what to do. I really really want a rancor...and I'm gonna b bummed to have dropped so much money to walk away with nothing. But I also really like these robes....GAH!