With all that he still lost to Obi and Starkiller. He was never a jedi or sith master. He was mentally as strong as a 12 year old girl. That is why he was always Palps *****. He can only kill guys over the age of 65. Dooku Old Obi and Palp. Vader is garbage. I understand most people think something is cool if the TV tells them its cool but please learn to think for your selves for once.