Imma be honest as a pyro PT i wouldnt want this......i prefer to control an opponent over just getting to them This would be an out right nerf to PT's.......you can go minutes without needing to effectively gap close on someone......but every 45 seconds someone is dying instantly to give my team a numbers advantage.........

This thread is still going I see........ complaining and crying about buffs and nerfs, just doesnt make sense GO F'ING PRACTICE !!! Good players dont give a fuuuuuuuuu about nerfs and buffs, THEY PLAY THE GAME AND THEY WIN - END OF STORY nerf my scoundrel imma still dominate, nerf my sentinel imma still dominate, nerf the powertech....... CAN U GUESS IT?

xept i constantly keep opponents from getting back to battles....my team always has a # advantage cuz i cut of reinforcements from the main battle......even if its only a mezz delay, i position myself strategically for throws since the opponents cant see me in there endzone, there are plenty of ways to contribute to organized pvp.....

think about how OP the class becomes if you make it so i can just attack whoever i want whenever i want out of stealth without fear of my surroundings.........i mean come on, its a stealth class, designed for ganking, its more of a solo world pvp thing, wanting it to be a big factor in organized pvp is also asking for it to be stupid insane in the 1v1 situations fast flowing pvp is always gonna be annoying for a stealth class.....either deal with it and do what you can do to help the team by still using your strentghs or roll another class......

i already stated in an earlier post i have a scoundrel..... I pick and choose my battles, within the first 15 seconds of any battle i have already identified my pref targets out of the 8 opponents and then begin to stalk them....waiting for the correct moment to strike..... am i gonna go after the jugg with the huttball? of course not...am i gonna go after his healer? probably not way to risky, ill let the sentinel handle the healer, oh wait....there is my primary target, the idiot turret dps standing alone, BINGO !!

guess i wasnt clear, YOU GET TO PICK AND CHOOSE YOUR BATTLES......just make sure you always pick a winning battle, before you use your opener make sure you have already calculated how much time you need to defeat that opponent, if you can defeat that opponent, how long it would take for an enemy to get to your location to aid your opponent, all of these are factors you can calculate on the fly while stealthed free of getting harrased by ranged or focused by melee........if you cant solo the opponent laid before you then wait, maybe a ranged teammate will harrass him to 50% in which case you can just use and opener / kill / restealth in seconds.....its that simple really, STOP TRYING TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, START DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO

ummm your doing it wrong, stealth classes should be staying away from large battles, you should be picking off people in 1v1's away from the larger battles, you should be annoying for the other team......3 people spawn after dying in huttball you should be finding a way to pick off 1 or 2 f them so they cant help the rest of the team else where.....once your done ganking you re-stealth and rinse repeat, if this is not your play style then a stealth class is not for you........

what balance? there will never be balance........balance is an illusion or an excuse for people who suck........ Class A will beat Class B in X amount of situations........but that doesnt mean Class B cant beat Class A in the situations that favor him.......it comes down to the players END OF STORY.....it doesnt matter how much you nerf my scoundrel, i will still pick off weak opponents who get lured out of the larger battles, i will still sneak up and gank healers who i watch use all of there cooldowns to survive another teammates attack.... I WILL PICK AND CHOOSE THE SITUATIONS MY CLASS EXCELS AT !!!! i will stay away from situations that arent mathematically possible for victory......this has nothing to do with the class. Just cuz a bunch of OP's and scoundrels wanna run around and blow stuff up doesnt mean that is what the stealth class is for.....play the class, and if you dont like it then play a diffrent one

look honestly who cares, i play sentinel, powertech, sage, scoundrel and jugg so far.... i dominate with all of them, doesnt really matter imo, itst he players, nerf one, nerf the other....i dont give a fuuuuu, IM GOING TO DOMINATE !!!! people need to stop complaining and start practicing, learn every class.......there is a reason i attempt to play every AC in an MMO.....ITS THE BEST WAY TO LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT AC's !!!! play your opponent, stop playing the way YOU want to play......take your strentghs and apply them to the battle, you should already know what to do in every situation, you shouldnt be reacting, you should already have executed the proper abilities to win the battle

this guy thinks like me..... i approve

ehhh this is all wrong..... especially the part I outlined 99% of the playerbase is utter GARBAGE..... so the whole "hardcore grind vs casual skill" thing doesnt hold water.....im so tired of hearing both sides of this arguement. Look the few good players in this game will win regardless, change this and change that, dont give a fuuuuu cuz im gonna win anyway. The reason the gear grind's have become so popular is it gives A) bad players an advantage over other bad players and B) it gives good players god mode status, these 2 factors keep both parties happy at the expense of the non geared garbage players.... Everyone sits here and complains about gear and classes, no one ever wants to say "damn maybe i just SUCK".... I dunno, honestly imo the gear doesnt even matter for winning, all of my alts have dominate the 50's bracket and they dont even have champ gear yet.... This new found MMO playerbase of casuals is just terrible, always complaining about the game instead of understanding how inept they themselves are, its ridiculous when i watch people fill up ball carriers/healers resolve bars for no reason or break an awe with an aoe cuz hey there initial reaction when they see 5 enemies grouped up is aoe like a derp....... and of course the sad part is, they dont even realize how bad they are.....they just come to the forums and complain about X or Y is OP........ this class killed my while i was stunned cuz i dont know how to position myself or prevent said situtions from happening.

If you are leaping into anything as a sentinel your an idiot......sentinels are scavangers/sharks, they pick off healers and turret classes on the outskirts of a larger group, when they get focused they use defensive cooldowns....not a hard concept

this guy gets it..... you cant expect the new found MMO community to ever use common sense.......they will continue to do whatever it is that THEY wanna do and ignore what SHOULD be done good post

yea well if you get no gear for raiding then everyone does its once maybe twice and then quits till next patch......u need the gear progression or else people say "hey i beat the game ill wait till there is more game"

I dunno, it would be fun....... 5 lanes........ lane limitations = max 3 in lane essentially lanes would look like 1-1-3-2-1 or 1-2-2-2-1 3 walls in each lane that can only be dps'd when lane is clear of enemies, 30 second respawn timer..... i dunno something along these lines to promote more skill fighting and less zerging players once dead can switch lanes but remember max 3 in a lane