yep, once everyone changes over to smashy smash then it will be easy to balance.

24/7 premades in the solo que as they farm gear

exactly this... Im not sure if they have made their money back from development and figure game is dying anyways and just dont care to put money/effort into fixing it? or they dont have the ways to fix it.

ran into a premade today ...somehow they got 7 of the same guild in there....7 smashy smashers and 1 ops healer. Somehow I didnt get the fun part of that wz. There seems to be fewer premades this weekend tho, maybe more solo ppl queing up to max out copmms I guess.

I kind of agree... if BW continues to crash and burn, maybe the next mmo that comes along will learn from it. Tho it worries me that fewer mmos will come along due to their failure.

unfort for BW this is whats happening. In the end we will all get our wishes It will be premade vs premade one way or the other....since the solo ppl will be gone and the premades will be the only ones queing.

regardless of what the BW is thinking with the combined ques atm, if they dont find some way in a hurry to make it more enjoyable for the solo que ppl (ie casuals), the game will go slowly die to attrition or go poof when any kind of decent new mmo comes out. Not sure Id be comfortable if I was BW living on the hopes that nothing mmo wise makes it down the line to release. Thankfully a new beta has opened and Ill be out of here when the acct timer is up (tho according to BW Ill be an active f2p acct still).

....except for the fact that it has happened ea time as population has dropped and only been mitigated by server consolidations. Ie the cycle repeats itself after ea consolidation> big pop gain good ques...slowly drops pop ques increase. The question I have is it the same on every server?

elii and joe..I know this and I play these times, but since you guys seem to have missed that...... These times show a loss of population much faster than others due to a loss of a few ppl having a much greater effect (due to a lesser population). Up til the last couple weeks, the ques at these times popped every 5 mins or so. Then they went to every 15 or 30 mins then stopped popping recently. Then the next slot started doing the same. Next will be the higher population times. This has happened over and over during swtor and is only solved by combining servers to this point. -- youll also see more and more posts about premades vs non premades as the population drops due to a smaller pool of ppl quing. -- as an aside, I know that you guys probably sleep/work during these times.... but I hope you can realize that there are ppl awake while you might be sleeping/working? and ( I know this one my be hard to fathom).. but there are ppl that sleep during the hours you work/go to school etc too.

Always seems the same, pvp ques start to slow down in the early am (3 to 7 am) then die...then the 7 am to 11 am slot starts to slow down (where we are now on shadowlands) then die. Always the same cycle of pop loss. This happening on the other servers too?

...or maybe there are 1 or 2 ppl out that that have families/jobs/ etc that dont have a set schedule or hours a night to play...just maybe (I know it's hard for young/single/unemployed etc ppl to understand...... but usually I get on have 30 mins to play and solo que. That's everyday 30 mins here , 30 mins there, get the daily done and back to RL.

It's a neverending cycle.... que for rated, get your butt handed to you by better teams, rage que for non rated so you can win, que for rated goes up, more rateds que for non rated .......round and round she goes. :edit: actually it gets worse.... to continue the cycle..... rateds keep going to non rated.....solo que ppl quit playing/go to other games, more and more often solo que ppl end up against premades due to fewer ppl queing overall, more ppl quit.... voila, non rated ques go up and game dies to loss of population.

actually they replied in a post today saying the mercs had 'escapability' problems. Id guess they fix it by taking away all knockbacks and stuns and make the current aoe kb root all pvp flagged chars including the BH (4 meter range). This gives all mercs a guaranteed escape to the rez area.

I was figuring theyd make all f2p ppl play a bh merc and have to pay to unlock other classes...

It is slowly getting worse on shadowlands as well. Just like last 2 times before ea merger, the ques start taking a bit longer to pop (like in the early am at this point) then that slowly cycles thru the whole day until ques get to be 10 to 20 mins or so. Then youll see a ton more premade vs non premade threads since there are more non premade ppl dropping subs and voia that leads to more and more ppl dropping subs and so on a big ol hairy circle of death for bw. Not really sure if BW has a prayer to stop it at this juncture. Hopefully the f2p will work, but it seems theyre doing it halfassed trying to draw blood from the turnip so to speak, so I dont hold much hope in that.