I don't get ur question?

I personally prefer this build http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500MMZfMrorhddGkZG.1

LOL, the last game i played in hutball. It was a 1 v 4. Pop Saber Ward and FD, go into Tanking stance Literally for 10 seconds i lost only 10% hp, and manage to kill on of the guys, and distract the guys, allowing my pugs to score the ball! FD even by itself is peaty good cuz, its a 10 seconds of 20% reduction to dmg + Unremitting adding another 40%( for 4 seconds. Nice changes Bioware

Before we start, I would like to say that I am a hardcore PvPer and a casual PvE person. I'm lvl 40 and going up the vigilance tree. changes that affected guardians 1. Focus Defence 2. Removal of Protector/ replaced with sundering throw 3. Focus tree 4. Master Strike 5. nerfs / buffs to other classes 1. I LOVE FD, it's amazing especially if you get the 2 points in cammading awe( reduces all income dmg by 4% and 15% when FD is up) This is amazing image every 3 minutes we are invincible. How? Well 15% reduced dmg from FD, another 50% from SW and another 20%-50% reduction from Armour.( woot). And people who are going hybrid are going to love this an well. 2. Personally I see no change in the removal of Protector, and now we can sunder someone and right after plasma brand them. 3. I have to admit you guys got hit really hard. But, what to expect, you guys we get 7K hits on 2-5 ppl needed to be fixed. 4. MS with Zen strike is a MUST making the CD of MS go down. Yes plz. and on average seconds i do 4k 5. Overall I feel the guardian has gotten much stronger in this patch, and yes finally i can kill a healer for once( still takes some time but now its possible)

Man you are so stupid, We probably got the same buff as the Sents. Use Master strike and stop Sweep bombing. Plus, I love my gaurdian, L2P noob. ps Focus defence works

Ok, you guys are all cry babies To put this out I am a Jedi Guardian. I **** hate sorcs. Your bubbles are just insane, absorbs almost 3000k dmg and you guys are complaining that you have light Armour? Second point, I don't know about you guys but i get 250k in voidstar, when i try really really hard, while the rest ( sorcs) have 300K+ and 100k+ healing. ***. You guys should realize that you have one of the easiest classes to play in the game. Complain about utility? What happen to healing, dots, CC'sss ( holy crap , so annoying ) and SUPPORT! Afraid that someone might kill you? Force run! You guys can run away from any fen battle and then heal yourself up. Learn to play guys and accept this nerf, they were long coming, you guys brought this onto yourselves. my 2 cent from a jedi guardian

Weirdly, enough I find the force clap a buff. Even though my unremitting will last for one second, Vig spec guardians in patch 1.2 are going to have Stagger. So now we force charge ( 2 second stun) then we have a 1 second root. It's almost like a 3 second stun! Just like Choke/Stasis.

o sorry 7k lol

I've seen 7000k ( around) on my dispatch before.

Bioware, you should hire this guy ^ .

only BH and Scoundrels can do that, I believe. JK for sure no.

Mendel has a really good point. In 1.2 people are going to be awarded 4 medals ( each give X amount of valor and Commendations) Valor IS GOING TO BE COSMETIC from now on and more of a prestige factor ( I know this from livestream) More Reasons to WIN a game. ( extra medals, credits, commendations) if you lose you get NADA "extra" stuff, but you can get your 4 medals, and "extra" medals for you playing "well" 12 of the new medals are objective base ( example, passing a ball in huttball or caping a point) RANKED PVP guys for gods sake, if you want to be competitive play go in the ranked system and not the pub anymore. they are even adding a pre-made only que system when cross server comes in with a tournament system

I'm lvl 47 NOW class is still ok

Hi, guys ( after a short break off this thread) I can happily announce that I am ***** lvl 43 ****** Since people are saying " o your in focus, that doesn't count" ( which is like saying a BH can't go through the arsenal tree, b/c it's there dps tree... ***?) I have been doing a vig,focus hybrid build. I LOVE it. http://db.darthhater.com/skill_calc/jedi_knight/guardian/#::e2fef4e3f3efef2ef21e3de2f3e2fefe2cef No more annoying knock backs, more abilities, more dps, more survivability. All of my abilities have almost a 7 seconds CD(average). I am tried of people saying " your not a lvl 50 so you can't say" but there are A LOT MORE lower lvl people that 50s. And at lvl 43 nobody can kill me now ever since I got enure.

I have lvled up a little bit to lvl 38, and I can say that nothing has changed so far, actually things have gotten even better than before