Reread it that is NOT what they said. They said you will get all the content for 15 a month but you will still be buying perks and items from the cash store, NOT included with your sub. You will get a small amount of coins but like all f2p games it won't be enough and you will need to spend more money to compete.

I loved the game .. oh well. I will never buy another EA/BW game and unsubbed. No you can't have my stuff it is going to rot! To me this shows that EA will change the core of the game at anytime to make more money and that isn't worth sticking around for. To all the idiots that think it won't cost more money or the items won't be P2W you are fooling yourself. Why would they give subscibers any tokens at all if you didn't need them? What happens when you run out? Every F2P game starts like this and they all end up costing more in the end., Next month SWTOR launches as a facebook game.

There are plenty of F2P models, they seem to be taking the worst one for the end user. To me the biggest point here is that EA will make any change at any time they want if they think it will bring in more cash including changing the core of the geme not even a year in. That alone is enough that I unsubbed and will never buy another EA/BW game again.

Compared to WoW every other sinlge MMO in history has been a complete and total failure. WoW came in to the market at the perfect time and place and has managed to keep up a business model no one else can match. If you judge MMOs based on how they compare to WoW 100% are failure but SWTOR is one of the better failures. Also EA has what like 1000 titles?

6 PT's ... well 2 OPs can make it so the entire team can't move.

Did you miss the memo? Maybe check your junk mail? DAMAGE DOESN'T WIN OBJECTIVE PVP You are the exact type of person they need to NOT listen to. Someone that thinks damage is the thing you balance the game around when it is objective based PvP not the most damage wins. It would take another entire thread to list all of the things that are more important than damage or kills in winning objective based PvP.

Yes please also give everyone top PVE gear from BT HM. I don't think it is fair that my friends get in better groups than I do just because they spent the time grinding for better gear than I did and I want mine now and I don't want to put in the same effort they did. I think it would only be fair if I got everything they got without having to put in the effort they did. History shows that the best PvP games are balanced around casuals that don't PvP that much and don't want to put in the effort!

So once you guys are finally successful in getting Pyro PT nerfed what exactly are they going to do? You want to take a claass that give up most utility and tools for single person damage, they are probably the easiest class in game to kill and you want to lower their damage .. so at that point what would the class be? Are you planning on adding some utitlity, debuffs, slows, roots etc to make up for it or do you just want the class neutered as some type of payback? Basically you guys want pure single person DPS classes brought to the DPS level of classes with more utility. Speed buffs, stealth, heals, knockbacks, pulls, leaps, cleanse, heals are HUGE<>HUGE<>HUGE. So if you want to nerf a class to the ground that doesn't have those toys then be prepared for your class to lose some of them or give some of them in place of the DPS if you actually want balance and not some type of revenge.

For PT's then take away the cooldown on applying the DOT from flame burst and no problem.

If you are trying to create a stock portfolio then yes use WoW as your template, but if you want to create a great game you need to have a much wider view.

You are comparing server status pre server merge with server status now? You do realize these server at standard are holding many times more people than servers used to at standard. I mean yesterday there were 3 Imperial Fleet instances on my server we didn't even have that the first week of server merges.

Even though you seem to add some numbers above what everyone has been posting for months, how is that unusual or strange? That is very normal. Tons of people buy new games to try them out and then decide they are not for them, especially ones with the Star Wars title. I have bought games solely because they were supposed to be the toughest games to run graphics wise, bought them to test my system played them for half an hour and never played them again. It is also normal for people that are MMO people to try out the new MMO but end up going back to their normal one. $60 is pocket change people will spend that to try something for a month without thinking twice. I spent that on Skyrim knowing I would never play it for more than two weeks.

That sucks, but I do them every day and I have never seen anyone kicked for not space barring it. I have seen some people be rude to people for not spacebarring but never kicking them.

Yes let's judge the game based on the views of people who couldn't care less if this game is bankrupt in a year as long as they make a profit on thier stocks this quarter! This could be the greatest video game in the history of the world and if the stocks didn't turn enough of a profit that quarter it would be considered a complete failure to the investors. Even if they had the greatest quarter a video game has ever had they would be considered a failure the next quarter if they didn't increase on that number. These are not the people's opinions you want to judge a game on.

So why is WoW the standard that everything should be like? There are plenty of other things in plenty of MMOs that WoW didn't do. Why didn't WoW have open world castle sieges? Why didn't WoW have flying characters and 3D atacks like AION? Why didn't WoW have dynamic crafting and unique resources like SWG? Why didn't WoW allow for a thrid faction and Realm vs. Realm battles? Why did WoW make limited equipment without unique stats instead of gear with unique stats like every other MMO before it? Why don't you get to take people who you kills equipment to make it a real challenge like UO? Why didn't they make leveling actualy mean something like DAoC/EQ/all old MMOs? You WoW fanbois got to quit acting like you are MMO vets when you really want to just go back to WoW and roll Pandas.