all i have to say is guilds have been waiting for guild ships since launch which were promised since before launch so the pvpers can wait where are the guild ships many guild have left because this was promised and it has not come out yet i for a fact 7 guilds of 50 people or more that have left because of this

ok i see what you are saying the numbers i put into that spreadsheet i pulled right of the game screen as i had the character tab up and the reason i ask buff or unbuffed because mine sits at 28.77% unbuffed and the thing is i am still not in full 72 gear so i am just trying to see other ideas people have on this i am going to test with more power augmentation and i will post the difference between the 2 so people can see the rotation will be the same which is likely wrong but i like it so dont judge me on that just the number differences

the numbers i have post i pulled the right off the screen so saying 1000+ crits is trolling you need to take into account all stats that can be add to the gear including augs. and it is nice to now you are a player from the beginning. and i am sure you even joined in on some beta weekends and stuff like that but if i pull the numbers right of my screen of swtor and put them in to the spreadsheet that was give that those are the numbers that it comes up with so 1000+ crit rating yes I have also been playing since pre launch and all i have played is an assassin. are you say 24-25% unbuffed or buffed

i did the same thing and my crit rating is at 30% and i am not even in full 72 gear Willpower 2591 Strength 155 Power 572 Force Power 2012 Crit Rating 1142 Surge Rating 388 Accuracy 395 Alacrity 0 Balance Sustained 2,722.69 Balance Burn 2,889.59 Balance fight Avg 2,769.98 Infiltration Sustained 2,514.50 Infiltration Burn 2,971.90 Infiltration fight Avg 2,644.09 with my number it is 200 less dps but my crits go off more offten 1 in 3 attacks so i wonder what it will be like when i am in full 72 gear

now that i have seen the math you dont recieve DR until you hit a cit rating number of 1125 which is about 15% just from critrating. then you do get DR until you hit your main stat until about 3710 which is 8.75% then with your base stat for crit is 5% so if my math is correct with the numbers that was provide by you guys that comes to 28.75% which does not include the bonus crit you get from having all the datacrons for str.which gives you .5% so i am just going with the math you guys proved and my 30% crit rating looks right on

dude dont get mad because i want to see the math i am not getting mad i just want to see the math is all you are the one that is getting mad i just want to see the math so this way me and my guild can compare are math and see where we might have miss caluclated is all i want i am not mad someone has a different opinion then what i have i just like proof is all now my other question for you is there a problem with my tanking set up then as well

it only should 2 min because that is all you did then because it works fine i log fights on it daily testing new things out on different toons and i have no problems with it

like i said i can careless what torparse say to me it is inflating the numbers i just want to see the math behind what u are stating i am tring to open the math he has provde but still waiting for access so until then i am sticking with show me the math then once i see it and i run over the numbers that are provide and i can verify them. i will change my tone towards what you say

then i will still a quote for a movie but instead of "show me the money" show me the math that you are using for this because it does not add up on my end for what u are saying and also are u in full 72 gear if so there is some other thing.

because like i said i have notice torparse inflates the numbers

can you post your log on http://www.fryingtime.com this site. never did like torparse i have noticed that it inflats the numbers

that is my point on thrasher you are standing in one spot and dont have to move at all unless u get targeted by the fire bug so that is not a true boss fight. what matters is keeping your dps up durning a whole fight even if you have to move so titan 6 is a perfect fight to go with and not tharsher

show me you number on a real op boss my number on titan 6 are around 2k dps so what are your real numbers not just on a dummy that is just sitting there and your highest attack never goes off because you cant get it to 30% health

i am talking just pve what are you following noxxic's lay out and not learn the class yourself if you spend some time working on it you will figure out that the soft cap for crit is 30% unbuffed

i am sorry to say i am running at 30% crit right now and when it hits with my surge as high as it is my crit hits are around 10k each time it is goes of with discharge and my stats are str 148 pre 810 aim 94 cun 94 end 2944 will 2314 exp 109 there is no problem getting to a crit rating of 30%