I thank you all for your opinions. And i am open to any suggestions with any talent tree. I went carnage and i hated it. Too low survivability and massacre seems kind of worthless. I was Anniliation from 10-50 so i am very familiar with its sustained dps and i enjoy it. But i rolled rage for the first time and i love it. Opening with force charge, force crush, and then a smash smacks your target down quick. While you can obliterate next with another force choke smash. Lots of damage, decent survivability, overall beastness. I dont think with rage you are really relying on smash, because vicious slash ignores 25% of targets armor and does overall more damge. Plus obliterare, smash, and force crush dont have that long of cooldowns. So my final conclution is.. Rage: Best burst damage. Anniliation: Best sustained dps / survivability Carnage: Pretty much only good for the imobilizations imo. I would defiantly want to hear more opinions about these specs. And keep in mind im not fully geared. Im a new 50 so i have 2 pieces of centurion gear and the rest is just 47-50 oranges with decent mods. So i am obviously not doing max damage yet and im getting pwned a lot in pvp. But i can still hold my own and I am outputting decent damage still.