Err, maintenence isn't for another 12 and half hours....

I managed to fight my way to my local GAME earlier...and walked away with a shiny new CE that someone had cancelled on Was perfect timing too: Staff: "Thats £130 mate" Bloke: "Sod that, gimme a normal one" Me: "I'll have it!"

Way to reinforce stereotypes my friend

F5, Standing by!

Basically, if everyone's going to be say "OMG! This WoW in space!!!11", I'm gonna start using the old "OMG!11 THIS IS EQ IN SPACE!1!!11!".. And then I'll go back to playing quite contently, not giving a single ****.

WoW's launch was a complete catastrophe in comparison to this. I'm still not in the EGA and even I can see this is 10x smoother that 90% of MMO launches. And I'm not gonna bother with the standard ePeen MMO credential waving that most people crying are doing.

So...exactly what WoW did on release... ?

How dare they not give you a bit of lettuce with it! What were they thinking

Unfortunately this is true, and not just in MMO's. In gaming in general. The great unwashed don't want innovation, they want comfort with what they know.

Err.....None.... TOR isn't released yet and niether is GW2... WoW has been around 7 years... TR lasted (roughly, not 100%) 2-3 years before being shut down.

Ok, you're wrong. A) That obnoxious voice over in that video just annoys me. (Obviously not a game issue, same as the fact he spends a minute or so of the video talking about WoW) B) He talks of technical issues for his first few points... Soundtrack is something to be excited about? I love the SW soundtrack, doesn't mean thats a selling point to me here, we're talking Gameplay. Content you can take above your level? Umm...I even remember doing that in UO as a Journeyman mage with a group of people.... and that was 1997... C) Dynamic events.... Yeah... Who HASN'T tried that? How it works is yet to be proven. Dynamic Combat.... There's only so many ways this can work, again we won't know till release. D) No monthly fee. Yes, this is a plus, always has been for the GW and others like it, but I don't really classify them as MMO's any more than Diablo 2 was an MMO. The cities may hold a load of people, but they're glorified lobbies in my opinion. My main point, is while I don't consider Guild WArs or it's sequel to be BAD (Can't judge the second one till I've had time with it), you're deluded if you think they're "Next Gen" in ANY WAY! Christ, even WoW just took what was done before and polished it.... GW2 does nothing new gameplay wise, it just makes it shinier.

If by that you mean it's shinier, then yeah. If you mean Gameplay wise, umm....you missed that boat 5 or 6 years ago....

*Insert lots of boring statistics and meaningless "I've been in SOOOOOO many MMO launches!" ****.* Who really cares??? You find it fun? Great! Why hang out on a games forum otherwise?

You misread the Twitter, he said 4 waves today. The 3-4 thing was different, someone asked him if it took 3 years to develop the game and he said "More like 5"

AND, apart from this not being launch despite what people are saying between the tears, Rift had to server merge after launch and seems to be dying, as all their fans seem to be on this forum crying.