I'm not going to lie, I'm a bit ticked off at waiting well over an hour (and counting) to get in. I would have hoped that paying for a subscription also would mean I'd get to access the game in a timely fashion.

Since we're already talking about leveling a Warrior, may I append a question to the OP's thread? I've been running Immortal up to level 29 and rather enjoying the feeling of being an indestructible tank while letting Vette do the DPS. From these comments, I'm guessing Immortal is a bad choice for heading into my 30s and up? The play style is a lot of fun, so if the playability isn't very much slower, I'd rather stick with Immortal. However, I'm getting the impression that the difference is quite significant. Is that correct?

Hm. Oddly enough, I'm fine with that answer. 'This year' is a fair and reasonable timeline for a long-term time sink.

I really don't understand the urge to be the ombudsman for a company I don't work for. I guess it takes all kinds and a tolerance for one another's beliefs that includes not dismissing something as trivial or childish because it isn't important to me. Bbbbbuuut this is the Internet, we don't do things like that here, right?

I can't answer for anybody else, but that would have done it for me. Even in negative terms. At least, then, I wouldn't have the sense of being ignored. On the other hand, when they sent me the exit survey for cancelling my account, this is the reply I gave them: I cancelled my subscription not because I was not enjoying the game, because I absolutely was. I cancelled my subscription because of a lack of communication from Bioware about the SGRA issue. I am a gay man and I have been supportive of Bioware because Bioware has an increasingly strong track record of supporting LGBT gamers. When SGRAs were confirmed, that tipped the scale for me in terms of investing the time and money to play a new MMO. I bought the Digital Deluxe edition of the game. I bought an authentication key. I bought tie-in novels and merchandise. I was prepared to buy expansions. In short, I was holding up my end of the deal. A complete and total lack of communication as to when the promised SGRAs would be put into the game, despite it being the single most asked question of the weekly Q&A sessions, indicates to me that your company has decided not to keep your end of the bargain. Not to feature the inclusiveness that makes a MMO worth supporting to a person who has limited free time. I am not quitting because I want SGRAs in the game without delay. This is not me stomping off in a huff. This is a customer telling a service vendor that when he (and people like him) have a concern, it is absolutely not ok to have those concerns ignored. I will happily consider playing the game again, when and if this issue is addressed. But until then, I won't give Bioware my money to treat me with disdain. And I will make sure that everybody who has similar interests knows, when the subject comes up, why I am not playing what I consider to be a fun game that I could easily invest many years and dollars on. Thank you for time and I hope to return as a valued member of the SWTOR community, one day.

Yea. I've cancelled my subscription and let them know why. I'll be happy to come back when and if they ever at least acknowledge the issue, even if it ends up being resolved against us. But as it is, I don't think giving a company that refuses to even communicate with me my money sends them the right message. I do enjoy the game. But not more than I enjoy being treated like a customer, rather than an embarrassing guy who needs to be ignored while you take his cash.

Ah, yes. I agree it came from somewhere. Wargaming rules. Which didn't have anything to do with, ah, 'sociiology' or therapy. Also, the details are the point. But life is too short to argue with people on the Internet and I am not an educator today. Carry on!

Um. D&D wasn't invented until 1977 or so. So, you know, in the sixties, the Downs kids may have been playing something but it wasn't that. But carry on. Truth is so limiting in a good discussion.

Speaking as someone who was there for the first incarnation of the game, back in the late 70s, this interpretation fascinates me. Could you tell me how you came by that impression?

There is the one in the Taris cantina, that gives him a kind of 'Elvis' look, with a low pompadour and rockin' sideburns. 12.5k was a bit much for the novelty value, but pair that up with chunky googles and a white/gold Consular outfit and it's Vegas Elvis, all the way.

Personally, I'm shocked and horrified that the game is ignoring basic biological laws by not making my character seek out port-a-potties hidden in the wilderness of every world. Forget datacrons, a jumping minigame to find bathroom tissue would be far more realistic.

Well, that sort of perfectly encapsulates the anti-SGR mindset, though. (Actually, the whole anti-LGBT crowd in general.) The thought seems to be, 'I'm not interested in having this freedom and I don't want you to have it either'. Which seems a little weird to me, when a little tending of one's own knitting and not worrying about what your neighbor does goes a long way towards making the world a nicer place.

I know I'm not supposed to say this on the Internet, but thank you for correcting me! A little hope on this front is nice!

You know, I've gone back and looked at every company response I could find on this topic and it seems to me that they haven't actually committed to SSRs at all. They've broadly hinted and let us do a lot of assuming, the actual language is vague enough that it seems unlikely we'll actually get them. Which is a bit of a shame on several levels.

I think that the constant need to 'prove' to other people that they don't really like what they like, or that their tastes are objectively wrong is more interesting than the scores, to be honest. There seems to be quite an emotional investment in trying to convince people that the game is an objective failure without a lot of evidence or dispassionate reason to back that up, given that it is too early to tell one way or the other, yet.