Even now, they should put the rated 8man queuing back in with full disclosure and warning that it is incomplete at times and buggy, ask the players to help them refine and tune it up within a couple weeks. They have 4 hours to fix their mistake. Question is, do they care about their player base enough.

Really? Someone at Bioware took the time to edit it out??

That was a technical error though, this is literally a poor management/business decision made intentionally.

This is going to go into the lesson books of MMO History of How not to manage your game. This thread is pretty epic, I don't think I've ever seen anything like it in any game.

Is that true?

Surprised still not a good response yet.

They should have said this a week ago that it was on the table to possibly not go in then. Not wait until <12 hours before it's supposed to go live and tell people, it's getting pushed off into future patches. Then all the people that did re-sub for 1.2 rateds wouldn't have. Those that re-subbed for other stuff would still be happy. This would have been an non-issues with proper communication and timing. People should get free time put onto their accounts UNTIL rateds go live or full refunds if they recently re-subbed.

If you knew your update wasn't "deployable" until just now today, then you have bigger issues on your management team than just this one delayed feature of your patch. Timing and communication is everything when you are running a MMO. It's gaming 101. Heck it's business 101. Honestly, this move just makes you guys look greedy. I know so many people who re-subbed specifically for 1.2 rated warzones. I doubt they'll do it again and put their trust into your company. You suckered them in for their 15 bucks this one time, hope it was worth the loss of a potentially longer term customer.

Hit the nail on the head, seems like a money grab, they will wait until the next sub session to drag it along.

Ranked Warzones is pretty much the only thing my guild was looking forward to. Thank god most of our subscriptions end this month. What a joke of a company. Way to dangle that carrot until the last minute though. Thumbs up.

Now that gear is not being linked to Valor rank(good idea btw to balance the playing grounds) since a geared toon vs ungeared toon is night and day, gaining valor rank should gain you access to new abilities(RR5 similar ability like in DAoC), and small stat increases(similar to the datacrons). Nothing ground breaking but at the same time gives small bonuses to the increase in rank so the player gets something in return for time spent beyond the just "grinding for gear, now that I'm done let me 1. quit the game or 2. start an alt". Since you have the Mythic team which did the bonuses for realm rank pioneered in daoc continued in warhammer and you have the ability to give permanent stat increases through your datacron system, this should be easy to implement. Also, there should be a top 10 space combat board. Show the rest of the fleet the top 10 pilots in the fleet. Figure out a way to score missions and then have a top 10 list in the middle of the fleet and on the web. Create a competitiveness to the space combat.

Gear grinds are no fun, especially in this game because it is so random. On the other hand hopefully the legacy system is somewhat like AA from EQ, PA from Rift, RP from DAoC. Minor ability grinds and stat grinds are a great way to keep people pvping even once they attain all their gear based on alternative exp, in this case legacy. But they need to make sure you get a good amount of legacy from warzones.

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