It's not only that their stun lock or their damage needs to be nerfed, I was just in a warzone where I was on my juggernaut I got stunned then burned down to almost nothing poped my ED and went back up to full health came out of stun was restunned hit my stun break was restunned and burned to nothing meanwhile my resolve bar was barely half to 3/4 full. There is no reason a class with their roll immunity, dodge, avoidance, heals, and that high damage should be able to stun someone several times without fulling their resolve bar. Mind you this was just one operative. You get 2+ of them together you might as well quit the warzone. I know BW hates us PvPers but taking away their stun lock isn't going to affect them in any way in PvE. Every other class in the game has a balance to it except Operative. Even Shadows and Assassins as the other stealth based class can't pull off the BS that Operatives have. Also this isn't a matter of "Learning how to beat them" because a single operative can lock down 3-5 people with a combination of their DCDs, rolls, and stun locks. No other class can do that. Mind you I am not some new player complaining about higher geared more experienced players. My Jug main is fully geared and min/maxed with over 10k power. I have also played this game from the 2nd to last Beta until now.

You guys really don't like Troopers. Why not just remove them from the game since you're taking away the only good armor set bonus out of all the Vanguard/Powertech sets. I mean at least give us a tanking set that's worth a crap. I mean you give Guardian/Juggernauts a decent tanking set not to mention their DPS sets, even Shadows/Assassins have better tank sets than Vanguard/Powertech. Meteor Brawler was pretty much the only set that was worth it and now you are nerfing it and putting the Vanguard/Powertech even lower. I mean just take them out of the game already or stop nerfing them to the point no one wants to play them anymore.

I have been saying this alot lately for example lethality regardless of its flavor sniper/op get an aoe dot, why not madness sorc that would save us alot of force right there by not having to tab to every player on an enemy team or every mob in a flashpoint and hit AF which eats up time and force especially in a pvp situation where you might accidentally dot someone already dotted. Personally I love madness as it is except for that one point of no aoe dot. Maybe add a dot to our lightning aoe for only Madness tree or something, or even give us a proc that makes it dot people so that way we aren't just running around spamming our aoe dot.

Damage Per Second(Mercenary/Commando) 1. Sylvand 1853.68dps http://i.imgur.com/yb3s0Sg.jpg 2. Fusrodah 1620.34 http://i.imgur.com/1zQFL0t.jpg 3. Desull 1476.65 dps http://i.imgur.com/SwWY6Kh.jpg 4. Devildog 1363.39 http://www.flickr.com/photos/feather...ream/lightbox/ 5. Nicole 1356.2 http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/1...3050201352.jpg Anyone even notice that this entry is not even a Merc or Commando and isn't even dps its heals????

/sign As a 100% pvper who used to pve and got bored with doing the same thing over and over again I completely agree with the OP and Bioware needs to stop ignoring the pvpers and favoring the pvers, I know alot of the pvpers from Juyo where I was originally from and were transferred to Jedi Covenant have left the game due to this reason. I don;t think Bioware understands how much of the community are PvP oriented and risk loosing alot of support if they don't focus on PvP NOW and stop putting their updates off or taking out content such as the Ilum open world pvp they destroyed which I know just that made alot of my old guildies from Juyo leave the game. I personally love this game and don't want to see it fail because the Dev alienate their player base as they did in SWG.

I am really surprised that no one has mentioned this or maybe they just haven't figured it out yet. With the bolster if you have any expertise on you what so ever it will actually lower your expertise in a warzone UNLESS you have full PvP gear on. With out any expertise you will be sitting around 1800+ in a warzone with bolster, if you even have 1 piece of gear with expertise on it it will lower the amount you get bolstered and as the op has shown will be sitting at below 1800. I found this out by having only one relic on with 109 expertise on it and it dropped me to a little over 1600 expertise. Why this is done I cannot tell but my advise is go full PvE gear until you get a full set of partisan gear which will give you 2018 until then rely on the bolster because putting the one piece or two piece on will lower your expertise.

I am getting really tired of people QQing in mmos. "Its to hard to beat this class nerf it so I don't have to learn how to play." Get over your instant gratification issues and actually learn how to play your class and stop QQing about people who take the time to learn the optimal way to play their class and teach others how to do the same. You people are ruining mmos by having the devs spend unneeded time on nerfing a class when they can be using that time to make the game more intricate and give us more areas and things to do. People like you destroyed SWG and now it seems you want to do the same to this game, first is was the op/scoundrel that was op now because of you people no one wants to play a dps op/scoundrel, then like was said before was the chain lightning/tele wave now no one wants to play that ac, now your picking on Juggs. I can remember a time when Juggs had really no dmg in pvp they were just meat shields to protect the healer, now they have a viable place in pvp dmg and because you don't want to learn a new mechanic/tactic to combat that the devs have to nerf Jugg smash? What happens when your class starts to do well in pvp bet you won't be on here going "oh please nerf my class it does to much dmg" no your be fighting against people like you who want your class nerfed. Get over it learn to play your class and evolve in your tactics as the game evolves instead of crying.

After reading this thread I am not sure what anyone is talking about, I originally play a shadow for pvp and scrappers seem to do alot more dmg right out of the gate than a shadow does. With scrapper you can crit from 3-(I have seen it a few times)6k on your first hit not to mention all the CC's you get with scrapper where shadow is a little gimp in that area. Dmg scrappers still are viable in pvp over the shadow in my personal opinion if played right. Yes shadow gets a survivability boost with their tank spec but it gimps their dmg a little. All in all I prefer scrapper in a pvp dmg role than shadow and this is coming from someone who has played shadow pvp from launch. Also you need to look at and learn what classes to go at of course its going to be difficult to stay up against a Jug/Guard they have more hit points and of course smash is op atm but what ever its difficult but not undoable just have to change your tactics a bit and learn what beats that class. I know one of the best scrappers on my server can take down just about anyone because he knows the class inside and out.

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I was in the guild Order 65 before I left the game for awhile and IRON/Knights of Iron before that.

Hey all just trying to see if anyone I knew from Juyo is here on this server that I was automatically transferred to on Juyo I was Yelten a 50 Shadow.

OP if you are really adamant about using your regen wait until you are out of combat then use it after you kill the person you are after as long as no one else is hitting you, you are immediately out of combat so go hide behind something and regen. But a more viable option like the others said is #1 befriend a pvp healer and group with them for pvp or #2 buy the pvp med packs and use those or get biochem and train it up to get the reusable medpacks other than that you are screwed.

I know but had a friend buy this particular one and after raging on him for a few hours figured I would post this warning for newer mmo players. I didn't know there was already a post like this one but after looking at it its about a completely different guide so.

It will actually help you along the way to be 1-2 levels higher than the planets starting quests makes them easier to do and also helps if you can't find a group for the heroics and don't want to sit and wait to do them.

Just a friendly warning to all new players and anyone who reads this if you are planning on buying an unofficial guide to the game DO NOT buy SWTorSavior or any guide it is listed with as it is a SCAM and a waste of money their suposed guide and the guides listed with them do not give you a fast way to level as they just tell you to pick up every quest that you run by which you would have done anyways with out it. Their pve and pvp builds are a joke you can find much better ones here on the forums or by doing a little research online and most of them will have a link to a video showing you what it does. Their credit guide tells you to do what you would have done anyways max out your professions and then check the exchange to see what is going for what. Just a friendly warning so you don't waste your money because even though they say they give a full refund when you ask for it they ignore you.