There's your problem in a nutshell.

Anything that hits at 10m, especially one that hits fairly hard, is useful in any spec, at almost any time when you need to hit the guy over THERE ----> and you're not there yet, or you're slow, and not getting there anytime soon. "Optimal" goes out the window if you're talking about pvp and you need to start putting damage on target RIGHT F'ING NOW. Shock does that. You will use it. You will like it. Or you are bad. 10m > 4m

Yes, they were. They were announced on the PTS forum in the 1.1.2 patch notes thread, which has since been removed, as the changes are now live. You saw the changes in the patch notes when you patched the game today. Just because you didn't pay attention doesn't mean the information wasn't there.

No Madness PvP hybrid any more.

I believe you get defensive medals in huttball by fighting (defeating?) the ball carrier. Or healing/guarding him if your team has it. I think you get defensive medals on voidstar by preventing caps (fighting someone planting the bomb.) And I know you get them on alderaan by standing near the turrets. I think you get them -faster- by fighting near the turrets, and by interrupting caps.

Hopefully no one's actually reading into this that all you do in Madness is spam Saber Strike to fish for Raze procs. It'll proc when it's ready. If it doesn't proc, don't hit Crushing Darkness, and go about your normal rotation. If it does, then hit it. Nothing changes. Move along, nothing to see here.

Skill > Spec I have played all three specs (31 pt versions) extensively, though mostly Deception. Currently 31 Madness. Yes, Madness. I queue mostly solo, so I don't have a pocket healer focused on me. I rely on charity heals from randoms, or I don't get them. I lead every WZ in medals, damage, kills, whatever. You blame your inability to compete with a spec on the spec when you should be looking within. There are plenty of people in this thread who have offered their opinions on the spec that contradict your experience. A poor carpenter blames his tools. A good carpenter can work well even with poor tools. Good luck in your warzones, by all means use whatever spec allows you to play your style, but coming in here and claiming the spec is poor because you're bad at it just makes you look like a fool.

You never cast Crushing Darkness without Raze. You're doing it wrong.

dear god make it stop

VS annoys me, because it's pretty obvious to everyone, "COME KILL THE DECEPTION 'SIN NOW!" I really hate the Maul windup. I see it oh so often, with nothing ever happening ... I'm ok with Assassinate. Big twirly finisher.

Dude. Stop trashing every thread in here with this garbage. No one takes you seriously, and those of us who have been successful with Deception are just laughing at you. Go. Away.

bump again

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I believe the change to Raze was introduced today, but yes, the other ones were there previously. None of which are documented, and none of which are technically correct. All three tooltips are currently wrong. When it happened is not the issue.

I'm certain this was an oversight on someone's part for potential changes but the fact that the tooltips made it live mean they are now incorrect. Skills not working as described on a tooltip means that players cannot make decisions on spec or ability usage properly. This is a major issue, and it needs to be addressed.