This is coming from a C&G member: I don't get why everyone is talking **** about this guild, I mean I think it is great there are people forming guilds and trying to be competitive I think it is lame and stupid that other guilds challenge a guild with 20members to duels ffs go duel some guilds like mvp and synergy if you really want to make an impression. To all the **** talkers get a life or uninstall the game and go play runescape.